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Post Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:52 pm

Holden GTR-X

http://www.canberratoranaclub.com/history/gtrx.htm

Started out a lack lustre day with 3 horses running amuck in suburbia. Had a few ideas where they may have come from so once they had been coralled in a back yard I went hunting down the owners.

Ended up in rambling property that had numerous cars in states of repair, Jags, a Maserati, old Fiats etc....The owner came home and we started to chat. He was a retired Holden engineer and his mate there was a retired Ford engineer. I told the Holden guy that I have a brochure on the Holden GTR-X and he offered to buy it from me. No deal.

He lamented but stated "Oh well, look over your shoulder then" and I did and there in the shed amongst the other unfinished projects was a GTR-X, build number 1 . Just a rolling shell. Fibre glass with a factory roll cage built in. No instruments, seats glass etc, but the real deal. He purchased it after it had sat forlorn outside the back of the GMH plant at Fisherman's Bend and a new manager wanted to get rid of it so he purchased it for an unknown price but it was a steal.

He is going to complete it , but all the parts will have to be fabricated. A big job indeed.

I couldn't believe it. What a car it could of been only for the bean counters.
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Post Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:59 pm

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Post Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:59 pm

Looks like the illegitimate love child of a Lagonda and an old RX-7 :D

Sadly, most Holden fans would've turned up their noses at it. :cry:
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:06 am

of the one in the shed captain obvious :finger:
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:11 am

AJFeroza wrote:Looks like the illegitimate love child of a Lagonda and an old RX-7 :D

Sadly, most Holden fans would've turned up their noses at it. :cry:


It is history in my lifetime. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. :bad-words:

What is sadder they informed me is that amongst the Holden and Ford engineers and their tight fraternity Ford has only 7 years left at building the local Falcon then it is IMPORTS. Holden too may be planning to go down this path also with Holden also rumoured to be selling off Lang Lang proving grounds. Why would they have to test cars here when overseas vehicles could be tested O/S by local Holden engineers to see if they suit our conditions..

Bloody sad.
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Lucky, Lucky, Lucky Lucky bastard.
I would give my left one for one of them.
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:18 am

RN wrote:What is sadder they informed me is that amongst the Holden and Ford engineers and their tight fraternity Ford has only 7 years left at building the local Falcon then it is IMPORTS. Holden too may be planning to go down this path also with Holden also rumoured to be selling off Lang Lang proving grounds. Why would they have to test cars here when overseas vehicles could be tested O/S by local Holden engineers to see if they suit our conditions..

Bloody sad.


it'll be a sad day when the last aussie made car rolls off the line, what real volume manufacturing will be left then? not much....
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:18 am

please please tell us RN that you took pics of the very very interesting shell


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Skegbudley wrote:I still haven't forgiven her for that. :bad-words: :bad-words: :bad-words:

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And neither should you, ever! :D ;)

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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:29 am

bj42turbo wrote:please please tell us RN that you took pics of the very very interesting shell


Dazz


Nah, I didn't have a camera and the guy was a tad nervous about keeping his location secret. I will visit him as I have an old Fiat wheel cap that I have had since a kid. He collects Fiats so I will offer it to him and perhaps he will let me take a picture..or two.

It's funny, these engineers are a select group but: Through a friend I met a retired Holden engineer in Phillip Island.

Months later at Bunnings a gent approached me in the carpark and saw that I had a Mav. He asked me where he could get some replacement tyres for his Mav ( skinny wheels version) Really strange tyre size. He was a retired Holden engineer, who knew my friend on the Island.

And today, I mentioned my friend's first name and this guy also knew him.

Small world. 6 degrees of seperation working again.
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:37 am

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Wasn't Todd Wilkes (SP) driving one of these with a turbo'd V8 in it when he killed himself up Shitney's dragway??
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Chucky wrote:
AJFeroza wrote:
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Wasn't Todd Wilkes (SP) driving one of these with a turbo'd V8 in it when he killed himself up Shitney's dragway??


Nah, it was an italian car, Alfa??fitted with a V8 Holden/Chev.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it98E2Fez0o
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:21 am

It would have been Holdens first full chassis car.
There's was a road going GTRX at Birdwood Motor Musuem, used to get driven around occaisionally, maybe still does. From the footage I saw it was blowing a bit of blue smoke.
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Birdwood http://www.flickr.com/photos/carsaround ... 482453529/



Anyone remember the Holden Hurricane? It even had a rear view camera ( you couldn't see out the back window, because there wasn't one)..and that was 1969

http://www.supercars.net/cars/2969.html
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:01 am

If my memory serves me correctly, they built that when the super car scare was on. After the scare they brought out the Slr5000 and A9x and the rest is history.Shame as that would have been a foot in to the european,sc market.Nice bit of kit,Thanks R/N ;)
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RN wrote:Birdwood http://www.flickr.com/photos/carsaround ... 482453529/



Anyone remember the Holden Hurricane? It even had a rear view camera ( you couldn't see out the back window, because there wasn't one)..and that was 1969

http://www.supercars.net/cars/2969.html
Yes seen one at a motor show now that was different :armsup:
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Wilkes crashed his Giacattolo, twin turbo v8.
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lump_a_charcoal wrote:Wilkes crashed his Giacattolo, twin turbo v8.


That was the one where the officials were running the meet in reverse direction wasnt it?
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lump_a_charcoal wrote:Wilkes crashed his Giacattolo, twin turbo v8.


That was the one where the officials were running the meet in reverse direction wasnt it?
Yep, why you would do that :?: As if they went the right way, he would have ended up in the run off area.
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lump_a_charcoal wrote:Wilkes crashed his Giacattolo, twin turbo v8.


That was the one where the officials were running the meet in reverse direction wasnt it?
Yep, why you would do that :?: As if they went the right way, he would have ended up in the run off area.


They did it that way so the high speed bit was in front of the spectators. A decision made for commercial reasons, with no thought given to the safety of the drivers.

Criminal stupidity, in my opinion. What happened to the organisers?

Edit: I did a little googling. They ran the opposite way so the cars could run downhill on the straight, and go faster. Four organisers were charged with manslaughter, and acquitted. There was a suggestion that further charges could be laid, and another comment about a civil case from relatives, but I didn't find anything more.
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there is a full write up on the GTR-X in
AUSTRALIAN MUSCLE CARS magazine a coupla months back
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from a Ford website....The likely successor for an Australian designed and engineered Falcon is a car based on the American Ford Taurus, which unlike the Falcon is a front-wheel drive car."The all-new Falcon doesn't have to come into play until the end of 2014, early 2015, and we don't have to make a decision until 2011 on what that vehicle will be, in terms of styling, technologies " he said.

im thinking it will be more likely 2-3 years before it imports
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:59 am

-Scott- wrote:
boner59 wrote:
PJ.zook wrote:
lump_a_charcoal wrote:Wilkes crashed his Giacattolo, twin turbo v8.


That was the one where the officials were running the meet in reverse direction wasnt it?
Yep, why you would do that :?: As if they went the right way, he would have ended up in the run off area.


They did it that way so the high speed bit was in front of the spectators. A decision made for commercial reasons, with no thought given to the safety of the drivers.

Criminal stupidity, in my opinion. What happened to the organisers?

Edit: I did a little googling. They ran the opposite way so the cars could run downhill on the straight, and go faster. Four organisers were charged with manslaughter, and acquitted. There was a suggestion that further charges could be laid, and another comment about a civil case from relatives, but I didn't find anything more.


Fair enough they made a mistake running it that way, but it all came down to the dude behind the wheel. He was the one in control, and if he was worried probly shouldnt have done it, or not gone as fast. Easy to say i know when adrenalin would have taken over. No disrespect intended to Todd or anyone either.
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No we don't need any more pics thats one hell ugly car
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:47 pm

well maybe it is one hell ugly car in todays terms
but remember it was over 30 years ago when they nearly went in production
at the time they were goin head to head with the 260z cars
would have been a good battle,especially with the GTR XU1 running gear
but i think the z car with triple carbs woulda givin it an absolute
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:57 pm

Yeah the Dattos were much easier on the eye...

Saw a nice silver 260z in traffic the other day, with an old school graphics set - I asked the missus what she thought it was, she said "a Porsche?"...

Made her get out and walk home!
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:50 pm

beinthemud wrote:No we don't need any more pics thats one hell ugly car


I agree, so here's a few pics of a Giacattolo instead. Have a close look at the tool kit in the second pic.

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looks like it has a pot of vasaline in that tool kit :?:
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:10 pm

RN wrote:Nah, I didn't have a camera and the guy was a tad nervous about keeping his location secret. I will visit him as I have an old Fiat wheel cap that I have had since a kid. He collects Fiats so I will offer it to him and perhaps he will let me take a picture..or two.

It's funny, these engineers are a select group but: Through a friend I met a retired Holden engineer in Phillip Island.



I have a similar engineer story Bruce, way back when they started building the 308 they shipped a few cars fitted with the very first of the new engine to Lang Lang along with 3 spare engines and a pile of parts, the tests went well and the engine was approved and put into production, through a friend of the family (one of the engineers) one of the spare engines was purchased and fitted into our ski boat, the really cool thing was that the boat was on the water before the first 308 car was in the show room, I was very young at the time but I can only imagine how cool that must have been given the hype there must have been in the media at the time for the new V8.
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