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dumbdunce



Joined: 15 Feb 2003
Location: Shed.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:20 pm Reply with quote Back to top

ok I know this isn't exactly 4WD related.

does anyone know anything about the diesel Geminis sold in the early 80's? specifically after specs on the engine - kW, Nm, capacity, compression ratio etc etc. I'm hoping maybe I can grab one for a decent price and turbo it up to make an economical runabout that isn't too much of a slug.

I've had a search on the www but can't find much tech info so if you know of any resources where I can find this info I'd be forever in your debt*


Cheers

Brian


*to the extent of a couple of beers at Christmas or something Wink

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Westoztroopa



Joined: 26 Nov 2002
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hows this... (Translation is a little dodgey!) Very Happy

"Q-D1800 engine which makes economical efficiency match, with serial 4 cylinders 1800cc, the highest output 61 horsepower, you call 60km/h fixed area travelling value 29km/ liter, it is low the fuel economy which should be surprised. Suddenly Gemini was acknowledged as pronoun of the Diesel car."



Serial 4 cylinder Diesel engine
Bore × stroke =84mm×82mm
Total cubic displacement =1817cc
Compression ratio =21.0
The highest output =61ps/5000rpm
Largest torque =11.2kgm/2000rpm

Found this at the following site http://www.isuzu.co.jp/museum/p_car/gemini.html using Altavista Babelfish translator http://world.altavista.com/tr.

Hope this is what you're after...

Cheers,

Noel
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dumbdunce



Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Nice work Noel, thanks!

hrm 61 horsepower... with some turbo love it could make a reliable 85 horsepower I reckon... hm can't tell from that pic if it's a crossflow head design or not but give me more info to search on.


cheers

Brian

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Westoztroopa



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

No worries Brian.

I actually like your idea of a turbo'd Gemini. Would be a great little economical runabout. Cool Let us know if you go through with it...

Cheers,

Noel
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Westoztroopa



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

This site would be a great place to start looking for further info...

http://www.isuzuperformance.com/isupage/

Noel
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pantheas18_hj47



Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Location: perth wa

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ok so this is a way old thread but anyway.

The Gemini Engine is a 4FB1
It did come out in a turbo in japan.

Below is a list of engines in the same family taken from
http://www.blairs.co.nz/diesel/diesel2.html


ISUZU 4FB1 ENGIN DRA 4CY,1817CC,66/5000 OHC
ISUZU 4FB1T ENGIN DRA 4CY,1817CC,78/5000 OHC
ISUZU 4FC1 ENGIN DFA 4CY,1995CC,ASKA, 73/4700*
ISUZU 4FC1 ENGIN DRA 4CY,1995CC,GEMINI FARGO73/4700
ISUZU 4FC1T ENGIN DFA 4CY,1995CC,79/4500HP ASKA
ISUZU 4FC1T ENGIN DRA 4CY 1995CC 79/4500HP FARGO*
ISUZU 4FD1 ENGIN DRA 4CY,2189CC,73/4300HP OHC
ISUZU 4FG1 ENGIN DRA 4CY,2380CC,FARGO VAN 79/4300
ISUZU 4FG1T ENGIN DR 4 CY,2380CC,FARGO 85/4300

the 4FC1 came out in the Holden Shuttle Van. I have found all these engines very hard to find information on.

a website with some model numbers
http://everstraight.myweb.hinet.net/isuzu(50).htm

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KiwiBacon



Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Does this link help?

http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1065702&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
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pantheas18_hj47



Joined: 08 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

thats for an RB gemini that was when the T series gemini was replaced. It was front wheel drive and didnt come with a diesel here AFAIK.
But it was a good read anyway

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bradley



Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

seen plenty of rodeo petrols fitted with turbos in geminis, must say i havent seen it with an oiler.

how about a rodeo petrol on lpg in the gem? (govt rebate!!)
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