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AJFeroza

Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:59 am |
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Australian teens take on American accents
By Robyn Ironside
July 04, 2008 01:59am
Article from: The Courier-Mail
FOR decades Australia has taken its lead from America in everything from fashion trends to food and diet fads.
But now it seems our love affair with everything American has been taken to the next level with some young Australians adopting US accents.
University of Queensland linguistics expert Roly Sussex said that as the most impressionable group in society, teenagers were very susceptible to imitating what they saw as being "snazzy or powerful".
"It's called the prestige model," Professor Sussex said. "Prestige is a very powerful motive and they (teenagers) will go with the pronunciation that belongs to the most impressive context.
"At the moment and this has been the case for some time now, that's American English.
"They see or hear these things being used by people like in MTV for example, and think 'gee, I want to be like that'."
He said one of the most notable differences in pronunciations was the emphasis put on the first syllable of a word.
"We're now hearing DIS-tribute, RE-search and CIG-arette quite regularly. This is an American pattern we are starting to pick up and follow."
It was not just pronunciations that were being Americanised but our spelling, vocabulary and grammar as well, he said.
"We're seeing more and more examples of American words used in place of Australian words such as sidewalk for footpath and park brake, instead of handbrake," Professor Sussex said.
"There is a service centre at Hervey Bay spelt 'center' and a 'fitness center' on the way to Cleveland.
"Most of the words of approval we use now are American - great, cool, neat, filthy and phat. Australian terms like ace and grouse are now almost invisible, as is 'hooroo' for goodbye."
He said it did not help that most of Australia's singers used an American accent - singing "lurve" instead of "love".
"We follow all sorts of American patterns of behaviour," he said.
Speech teacher June Finney said anything American was highly regarded by young people and it "stood to reason" pronunciations were changing to mimic the American accent.
"We live in a period where anything goes and sadly that seems to apply to our speech as well," Ms Finney said.
But Professor Sussex said it was unlikely the Australian accent would ever be completely erased.
"The original identity will persist," he said.
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chimpboy

Joined: 25 Oct 2003
Location: Melbourne Australia
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:04 am |
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I have caught myself saying "hood" and "fender", to my great shame.
But... on the upside from all this, I can remember when Aussie TV was full of pseudo-brit accents; at least you get to hear more real voices these days. |
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Rice_Boy

Joined: 18 Nov 2006
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:25 am |
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i have a slight American accent, mostly because i don't like the stupid drawl of the australian red neck accent. |
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bogged

Joined: 27 Nov 2002
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:35 am |
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| i have a slight American accent, mostly because i don't like the stupid drawl of the australian red neck accent. |
Why cant you just talk normally without pretending to be what you arent? |
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GRIMACE

Joined: 29 May 2003
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:38 am |
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| bogged wrote: |
| Rice_Boy wrote: |
| i have a slight American accent, mostly because i don't like the stupid drawl of the australian red neck accent. |
Why cant you just talk normally without pretending to be what you arent? |
dats like not ma shiz y0 dawg! |
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bogged

Joined: 27 Nov 2002
Location: Lost in Melbourne.
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:41 am |
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| bogged wrote: |
| Rice_Boy wrote: |
| i have a slight American accent, mostly because i don't like the stupid drawl of the australian red neck accent. |
Why cant you just talk normally without pretending to be what you arent? |
dats like not ma shiz y0 dawg! |
sorry like y'allz, like ma azz was like wrong like yo.. |
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plasnart

Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:42 am |
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Teenagers have been imitating American accents for years. I remember when I was at school some kids would think it was cool to talk "American". Kids go through these stages but will eventually grow out of it. How many adults do you hear talking with fake american accents?
More of a concern to me is the acceptance of American terms like hood, glove compartment, etc. Even heard someone recently refer to petrol as gas! . There's an ad on TV at the moment for a cake mixture where the kid says he loves the "frosting" (instead of "icing"). The way advertisers force americanisms on young people p1sses me off. Hopefully we will keep our Australian terms and not succumb to the Americanisation of our language. |
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bogged

Joined: 27 Nov 2002
Location: Lost in Melbourne.
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:45 am |
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Teenagers have been imitating American accents for years. I remember when I was at school some kids would think it was cool to talk "American". Kids go through these stages but will eventually grow out of it. How many adults do you hear talking with fake american accents?
More of a concern to me is the acceptance of American terms like hood, glove compartment, etc. Even heard someone recently refer to petrol as gas! . There's an ad on TV at the moment for a cake mixture where the kid says he loves the "frosting" (instead of "icing"). The way advertisers force americanisms on young people p1sses me off. Hopefully we will keep our Australian terms and not succumb to the Americanisation of our language. |
I hate the fact that they use overseas ads at all in aussie, specially for cars, the ones they show are usually not available here and the ads are always LHD.... . em, they wanna sell here, you show the car here. |
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| The trucks are cool but the music just screams "put it in my bum". |
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plasnart

Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:45 am |
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| Rice_Boy wrote: |
| i have a slight American accent, mostly because i don't like the stupid drawl of the australian red neck accent. |
So you prefer to speak with the stupid drawl of the American redneck accent?
Go on mate....don't be afraid to be an Aussie. |
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plasnart

Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:51 am |
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| plasnart wrote: |
| Rice_Boy wrote: |
| i have a slight American accent, mostly because i don't like the stupid drawl of the australian red neck accent. |
So you prefer to speak with the stupid drawl of the American redneck accent?
Go on mate....don't be afraid to be an Aussie. |
Oh crap, I said redneck! Pretty sure that's American terminology.
Oh crap, I said crap! Think that's American for......dunno.....what's an original Aussie word for faeces?
Uh-oh, think I'm losing my Australian identity.  |
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bogged

Joined: 27 Nov 2002
Location: Lost in Melbourne.
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:51 am |
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| Rice_Boy wrote: |
| i have a slight American accent, mostly because i don't like the stupid drawl of the australian red neck accent. |
So you prefer to speak with the stupid drawl of the American redneck accent?
Go on mate....don't be afraid to be an Aussie. |
Oh crap, I said redneck! Pretty sure that's American terminology.
Oh crap, I said crap! Think that's American for......dunno.....what's an original Aussie word for faeces?
Uh-oh, think I'm losing my Australian identity.  |
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| The trucks are cool but the music just screams "put it in my bum". |
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DeWsE

Joined: 05 Sep 2003
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:51 am |
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Let's bring back the thread with all the Aussie slang!!!!! |
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plasnart

Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:53 am |
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| Let's bring back the thread with all the Aussie slang!!!!! |
That'd be bonza mate! |
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Pyrotech

Joined: 13 Aug 2004
Location: Newy
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:54 am |
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| Rice_Boy wrote: |
| i have a slight American accent, mostly because i don't like the stupid drawl of the australian red neck accent. |
Australian Red Neck? WTF
last time i checked "red neck" was an american term for An uneducated, unsophisticated, or poor white person, typically used to describe residents of the rural Southern US; The nickname given to miners who wore red bandanas for identification during the West Virginia mine war of 1921 |
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Pyrotech

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Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:05 am |
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Oh crap, I said crap! Think that's American for......dunno.....what's an original Aussie word for faeces?
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dogbreath_48

Joined: 05 Aug 2004
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:05 am |
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| ... The nickname given to miners who wore red bandanas for identification during the West Virginia mine war of 1921 |
Well there ya go, i thought it was because they're always sunburnt
BTW, i'm still embarrassed when i use the word 'truck' to describe a 4x4. |
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bogged

Joined: 27 Nov 2002
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:08 am |
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| Pyrotech wrote: |
| ... The nickname given to miners who wore red bandanas for identification during the West Virginia mine war of 1921 |
Well there ya go, i thought it was because they were always sunburnt
BTW, i'm still embarrassed when i use the word 'truck' to describe a 4x4. |
thats right... it should be rig. |
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plasnart

Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:08 am |
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| plasnart wrote: |
Oh crap, I said crap! Think that's American for......dunno.....what's an original Aussie word for faeces?
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That'll do nicely.
So just had a bog before I bogged me dacks. Would hate to have bogged them. Being bogged is not good!!
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Pyrotech

Joined: 13 Aug 2004
Location: Newy
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:14 am |
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| Pyrotech wrote: |
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Oh crap, I said crap! Think that's American for......dunno.....what's an original Aussie word for faeces?
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That'll do nicely.
So just had a bog before I bogged me dacks. Would hate to have bogged them. Being bogged is not good!!
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i hate to think what bogged is gunna say when he reads that....
u could be in the bog, or up bog creek... |
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bogged

Joined: 27 Nov 2002
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:17 am |
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Oh crap, I said crap! Think that's American for......dunno.....what's an original Aussie word for faeces?
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That'll do nicely.
So just had a bog before I bogged me dacks. Would hate to have bogged them. Being bogged is not good!!
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i hate to think what bogged is gunna say when he reads that....
u could be in the bog, or up bog creek... |
trying to work it out
So just had a shit before I shit me dacks. Would hate to have shit them. Being shit is not good!!
So just had a poo before I pooed me dacks. Would hate to have pooed them. Being pooed is not good!!
So just had a excrement before I excreted me dacks. Would hate to have excremented them. Being excrement is not good!! |
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| The trucks are cool but the music just screams "put it in my bum". |
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kirragc

Joined: 09 Sep 2005
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:20 am |
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The red neck was a rash from vitamin B3 deficiency from eating mostly corn based foods and little else. |
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Pyrotech

Joined: 13 Aug 2004
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:20 am |
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or if ur yank, would it be?
So just had a shiz before I shized me dacks. Would hate to have shized them. Being shiz is not good!! |
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plasnart

Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:22 am |
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| Pyrotech wrote: |
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| Pyrotech wrote: |
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Oh crap, I said crap! Think that's American for......dunno.....what's an original Aussie word for faeces?
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bog? |
That'll do nicely.
So just had a bog before I bogged me dacks. Would hate to have bogged them. Being bogged is not good!!
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i hate to think what bogged is gunna say when he reads that....
u could be in the bog, or up bog creek... |
trying to work it out
So just had a shit before I shit me dacks. Would hate to have shit them. Being shit is not good!!
So just had a poo before I pooed me dacks. Would hate to have pooed them. Being pooed is not good!!
So just had a excrement before I excreted me dacks. Would hate to have excremented them. Being excrement is not good!! |
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AJFeroza

Joined: 30 Apr 2003
Location: In the Goatshed in Melbourne
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:18 pm |
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| plasnart wrote: |
| plasnart wrote: |
| Rice_Boy wrote: |
| i have a slight American accent, mostly because i don't like the stupid drawl of the australian red neck accent. |
So you prefer to speak with the stupid drawl of the American redneck accent?
Go on mate....don't be afraid to be an Aussie. |
Oh crap, I said redneck! Pretty sure that's American terminology.
Oh crap, I said crap! Think that's American for......dunno.....what's an original Aussie word for faeces?
Uh-oh, think I'm losing my Australian identity.  |
IIRC, crap comes from the name of the dude who invented the dunny... Mr Crapper?
One of my pet hates is pOOper or pOOp, with the emphasis on the "OO". |
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Rice_Boy

Joined: 18 Nov 2006
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:33 pm |
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| Pyrotech wrote: |
| Rice_Boy wrote: |
| i have a slight American accent, mostly because i don't like the stupid drawl of the australian red neck accent. |
Australian Red Neck? WTF
last time i checked "red neck" was an american term for An uneducated, unsophisticated, or poor white person, typically used to describe residents of the rural Southern US; The nickname given to miners who wore red bandanas for identification during the West Virginia mine war of 1921 |
Welcome to Globalisation, Pazza. |
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AJFeroza

Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:37 pm |
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Globalisation doesn't have to mean homogenisation of culture.
I also REALLY REALLY REALLY hate it when Aussies use "Mom".  |
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bogged

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Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:38 pm |
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| AJFeroza wrote: |
Globalisation doesn't have to mean homogenisation of culture.
I also REALLY REALLY REALLY hate it when Aussies use "Mom".  |
dont hear that one very often than fuq. |
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Barnsey

Joined: 10 Jun 2004
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:39 pm |
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I'm worried about the influence watching too much Impaja TV might cause me.
I might finish up sounding like Regae Reg: "Don't sleep on da road, eh"  |
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Rice_Boy

Joined: 18 Nov 2006
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:58 pm |
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I'm worried about the influence watching too much Impaja TV might cause me.
I might finish up sounding like Regae Reg: "Don't sleep on da road, eh"  |
Aye Brudda, got a dolla? |
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plasnart

Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:58 pm |
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| Barnsey wrote: |
I'm worried about the influence watching too much Impaja TV might cause me.
I might finish up sounding like Regae Reg: "Don't sleep on da road, eh"  |
Imparja ads are certainly different to the ones we get down here. I recently saw some Imparja ads which warned against piling 10 people into an XD Falcon and recommending carrying spare outboard fuel when travelling overseas in a tinny!!
I suppose they're good messages though. Many people in the southern states have no idea what actually happens up north. |
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