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Hekta



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

One of those big signs over the highway was advertising these in between reminders for World Youth Day.


They come into practice today.
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/roadrules/2008nswrrulechanges.html

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Some weird ones there... a few i thought were already law and fineable for....

So with the first rule does this mean that Cyclists will have to pay rego/insurance and get a front and rear number plate Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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There are a number of new rules relating to driver and cyclist responsibilities at bicycle storage areas. For example, when traffic lights or arrows are red, drivers must not allow any part of their vehicle to enter the bicycle storage area


A number is several, what are the rest
Love (not) the way they have not advertised anywhere 'how to comply with the new laws", instead they just advertise go to this website- less backlash when we do not know what the changes actually are.

In a recent press release the RTA said "Bicycle storage areas are to bring us inline with the other states"
Which other states have these?........NONE

STUPID RULES MADE BY STUPID PEOPLE

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Your state is realy good at using 'big events' to slip new laws in.

it's also going to be a fineable affence to 'annoy pilgrams of world youth day'

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Driver to have proper control of a vehicle
A driver must not drive with a person or animal in the driver’s lap

Totally agree with this one, I cringe at people driving with dogs on their laps armsup
But hasn't "proper control" been a law for a long time - see Stupid rules for Stupid people, they need to spell it out.

How before the rule book is the size of an encyclopedia Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Driver to have proper control of a vehicle
A driver must not drive with a person or animal in the driver’s lap

Totally agree with this one, I cringe at people driving with dogs on their laps armsup

had an old boiler nearly run me off road few days ago with Muffy on her lap.. some old piece of shit XD or similar.. didnt give a shit that anyone was around her.. it was her 3 lanes.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Driver to have proper control of a vehicle
A driver must not drive with a person or animal in the driver’s lap


It's about bloody time too!

As fool (or not so the fool? Very Happy ) has brought up in the past, In the event of an accident animals, particiularly large dogs, become somewhat of a 30kg+ missile! Not only that, what is stopping the dog jumping out the window while pulled up at a set of traffic light to chase cat, bird whatever!

It makes me so cranky that some people "love" their pets so much that they'd put them in danger by not restraining them in a vehicle properly.

Grr farking GGGGRRRRR!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

MissForby wrote:
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Driver to have proper control of a vehicle
A driver must not drive with a person or animal in the driver’s lap


It's about bloody time too!

As fool (or not so the fool? Very Happy ) has brought up in the past, In the event of an accident animals, particiularly large dogs, become somewhat of a 30kg+ missile! Not only that, what is stopping the dog jumping out the window while pulled up at a set of traffic light to chase cat, bird whatever!

It makes me so cranky that some people "love" their pets so much that they'd put them in danger by not restraining them in a vehicle properly.

Grr farking GGGGRRRRR!


Ah, you remember my mad rantings on this topic over the years Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Driver to have proper control of a vehicle
A driver must not drive with a person or animal in the driver’s lap


Yay! armsup

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:06 pm Reply with quote Back to top

MissForby wrote:
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Driver to have proper control of a vehicle
A driver must not drive with a person or animal in the driver’s lap


It's about bloody time too!



Umm I believe the discussion has been brought up on here before, But in NSW it has been illegal for over 10 years to drive with an animal un restrained.

So now it just means people driving with dog on their lap Cop 2 fines instead of one.

Makes no difference to me, I never drive without my puppies or pussies being restrained.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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... I never drive without my puppies or pussies being restrained.


corset and chastity belt??

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

dumbdunce wrote:
La Fonda wrote:
... I never drive without my puppies or pussies being restrained.


corset and chastity belt??


Nah mate, like a real good woman, she lets me tie her up completely and rides in the boot.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

dumbdunce wrote:
La Fonda wrote:
... I never drive without my puppies or pussies being restrained.


corset and chastity belt??


GOLD armsup

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

dumbdunce wrote:
La Fonda wrote:
... I never drive without my puppies or pussies being restrained.


corset and chastity belt??

Umm Do you see this Corset Restraining anything?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Does restrained mean tied up? Or just not in the lap?

My dog rides in the back seat on long trips. Only jumps in the front when we pull up for maccas Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

There isn't enough coppers to enforce the existing road rules let alone any new ones.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

RockyF75 wrote:
Does restrained mean tied up?
My dog rides in the back seat on long trips.


Mine too. Everywhere I drive, my dog's in the back.
Is that illegal?
In SA?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

RockyF75 wrote:
Does restrained mean tied up? Or just not in the lap?

My dog rides in the back seat on long trips. Only jumps in the front when we pull up for maccas Cool


Mate, that's unrestrained. By law, you should have him tied up. If you have an accident he'll go straight through your windscreen.

You can buy actually puppy seat belts that are a harness style so that in the event of an accident your mate won't hurt himself or anyone else.

Please look into it. You'd be amazed how many pets die in car accidents each year.

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MissForby wrote:
RockyF75 wrote:
Does restrained mean tied up? Or just not in the lap?

My dog rides in the back seat on long trips. Only jumps in the front when we pull up for maccas Cool


Mate, that's unrestrained. By law, you should have him tied up. If you have an accident he'll go straight through your windscreen.

You can buy actually puppy seat belts that are a harness style so that in the event of an accident your mate won't hurt himself or anyone else.

Please look into it. You'd be amazed how many pets die in car accidents each year.


jess your old and wise now.
but i think your mistaken.
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/downloads/0809_demerits_general.pdf
no where in there can i see where ti says an animal must be restrained.
and if you have a big dog it wont fit between the seats?

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DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:
MissForby wrote:
RockyF75 wrote:
Does restrained mean tied up? Or just not in the lap?

My dog rides in the back seat on long trips. Only jumps in the front when we pull up for maccas Cool


Mate, that's unrestrained. By law, you should have him tied up. If you have an accident he'll go straight through your windscreen.

You can buy actually puppy seat belts that are a harness style so that in the event of an accident your mate won't hurt himself or anyone else.

Please look into it. You'd be amazed how many pets die in car accidents each year.


jess your old and wise now.
but i think your mistaken.
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/downloads/0809_demerits_general.pdf
no where in there can i see where ti says an animal must be restrained.
and if you have a big dog it wont fit between the seats?


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The ACT
Dogs are required to be restrained on the back of a moving vehicle under the Animal Welfare Act 1992, said Lee-Anne Wahren, Policy Officer within Environment Planning and Legislation, who is responsible for reviewing all animal welfare policy in the ACT Government.


Ms Wahren said correspondence from the RSPCA regarding injuries to animals handed in to the society and a number of veterinarian reports initiated the amendment to the Act in 1999. The maximum fine for breaching the law is $2000.



Victoria
The Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1986 requires dogs to be restrained on moving vehicles, said Dr Stephen Tate, Director of Bureau of Animal Welfare within the Vic Department of Primary Industries. The maximum fine for breaching the law is $500.


Mr Apostolidades, who has been RSPCA inspector for 23 years, said the number of dog injuries in Victoria has dropped dramatically since the legislation came into effect in 1995.


In Victoria, only police can stop a vehicle carrying an unrestrained dog but an RSPCA inspector can take the registration number and trace the owner or follow the vehicle until it stops and then question the owner. Mr Apostolidades said the RSPCA is now putting in a submission to amend the law to be able to issue a Personal Infringement Notice (PIN) to offending drivers, instead of the matter going straight to the Magistrate's Court. If drivers choose to contest the notice, the matter would then go to court, he said.



Queensland
Having an unrestrained dog on a moving vehicle could breach both the Transport Operations (Road Use Management -- Road Rules) Regulation 1999 and the Animal Care and Protection Act 2001.


The Transport Operations Regulation, administered by the Department of Transport, states it is an offence to have an unsecured load on the back of a vehicle and that applies to dogs, said Dr Rick Symons, Manager of the Animal Welfare Unit within the Qld Department of Primary Industries and Fisheries.


The Animal Care and Protection Act does not specifically mention dogs restrained on vehicles, but it places a duty of care on owners of animals to ensure the welfare needs of animals are met.


"It is an offence under the Act for a person in charge of an animal to breach this duty of care by transporting the animal in a way that is inappropriate for the animal's welfare," he said.


A breach of duty of care can result in a fine of $22,500 (and up to five times this amount for a corporation) or one year's imprisonment.



Northern Territory
The Animal Welfare Act 1999 states, "A person transporting an animal must do so in a manner that does not unreasonably or unnecessarily inflict suffering on the animal."


Peter Brice, the Animal Welfare Advisory Committee Executive Officer for NT, said the Act replaced the old Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act and is primarily enforced by the RSPCA. Breaking the law will incur an on-the-spot fine of $100.


"Everybody in the Northern Territory has a ute," Mr Brice said. "They pop a couple of dogs on the back and go hunting on the weekends, but (the law) is widely publicised and it's accepted."



NSW
The Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979 requires a dog to be restrained on the back of a moving vehicle or enclosed in such a way as to prevent the dog falling from the vehicle.


The maximum penalty is $5500 or six months in jail, according to Dr Ian Lugton, Senior Veterinary Officer within the Animal Welfare Unit of the NSW Department of Primary Industries. Dr Lugton said by March he expects officers to have authorisation to track down offenders involved in motor vehicle offences by following up on the vehicle's registration details.



Western Australia
No legislation specifically requires dogs to be restrained on the back of moving vehicles, however the Animal Welfare Act 2002 states a person in charge of an animal is defined as being cruel to an animal "if the animal is transported in a way that causes, or is likely to cause, it unnecessary harm," said Vicky Nazer, Research and Administration Officer within the Animal Welfare Branch of the WA Department of Local Government and Regional Development.


"So in a case where the Act of transporting a dog on a ute was causing it, or likely to cause it, unnecessary harm, the person in charge of the animal could be charged with an offence of cruelty under the Act," Ms Nazer said.


The maximum penalty is $50,000 and imprisonment for five years.



South Australia
Transporting unrestrained dogs is against the law as provided in the Dog and Cat Management Act 1995. The Act was amended in 2004 to include the legislation.


Deb Kelly, Manager of the Animal Welfare Unit within the SA Department for Environment and Heritage, wrote the policy regarding the issue.


"The purpose of the restraint in utes is really three fold," Ms Kelly said. "First, there is a safety issue of the dog falling out of the ute and causing an accident for the car behind. Second, the safety of the dog itself, and third, to address the issue of a dog left in the back of a ute that bites people going past."


The maximum fine if breaking the law is $750.



Tasmania
The Dog Control Act 2000 states, "The owner or person in charge of a dog must restrict the dog sufficiently while it is in or on a vehicle so that it is unable to leave the vehicle or attack any person or animal outside the vehicle."


RSPCA Tasmania Chief Inspector Graeme Lewis said only police officers could enforce the law. Breaking the law has a maximum fine of $500.


Since the law came into effect, driving with unrestrained dogs has "virtually stopped", Mr Lewis said.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Good work there wayne.
but they are all referring to animals being carried "on" a vehicle. eg ute.
jess was saying to put seatbelts on the animals.
i cant see where they say animals in a vehicle to be restrained??

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:
Good work there wayne.
but they are all referring to animals being carried "on" a vehicle. eg ute.
jess was saying to put seatbelts on the animals.
i cant see where they say animals in a vehicle to be restrained??


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