New CSA regs...........anyone else had a "win"?

Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Location: North West Qld

This is priceless! Very Happy

Now that I can afford it, my CSA payments have actually dropped $300 a month, with the new CSA scheme. Rolling Eyes

My ex, who insists on going through CSA, is having a hissy fit about it too. #Rofl

I've always been willing and able to pay her directly, and I've never avoided the financial support of my kids..............

Every time she's needlessly skitched the CSA on to me, she's finished up with less $$ than I've offered to pay.

Now it's bitten her on her fat bum, big time.

Bugger me, she might have to work an extra day a month to "make ends meet"

Love it! Very Happy

Did you know that it cost the CSA $5 for every $1 they collect from separated dads?

Bullshit, isn't it? Confused

Joined: 27 Nov 2002 Location: Lost in Melbourne.

Barnsey wrote:

Did you know that it cost the CSA $5 for every $1 they collect from separated dads?

Bullshit, isn't it? Confused

standard gov dept bullshit

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:26 pm

Good to hear you've had a win mate. Just don't tell anyone, or they'll think you're shirking your responsibilities cussing

There's a massive thread been going for a couple of years on Whirlpool that I follow every now and then, and it seems more are getting f***ked over than helped.

Joined: 08 Jul 2007 Location: nth brissy

Yep i had a little win Cool

that is until i do a re-assesment and then i will be paying more per month than i take home per week cussing

But its all ok i still have all of the marrige debts . Could be worse she has the stress of all my ex assets. Im allowed to see my daughter when ever i want though, 1560kms return and no overnight visits. Domestic violence works both ways its just that only women get believed cussing

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:12 pm

I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT!
not that barnseys payments went down.

but that he was A married and B reproduced.
what drugs was she on?? or was it a he?
how does a camel contact the CSA in the first place???

Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Location: North West Qld

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:

I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT!
not that barnseys payments went down.

but that he was A married and B reproduced.
what drugs was she on?? or was it a he?
how does a camel contact the CSA in the first place???

OK

Odd post.

Did you use your fingers to do that, or did you scrotum flop on the keyboard?

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:21 pm

Barnsey wrote:

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:

I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT!
not that barnseys payments went down.

but that he was A married and B reproduced.
what drugs was she on?? or was it a he?
how does a camel contact the CSA in the first place???

OK

Odd post.

Did you use your fingers to do that, or did you scrotum flop on the keyboard?

I vote the flop!

Good on the dads who genuinely want to support their kids. My "dad" used to pay $1.75 a week. Barely enough to keep me in tampons cussing

Good on ya Barnsey armsup

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:23 pm

JESS YOU ARE BANNED FROM USING THAT SAYING!!!

Joined: 26 Oct 2002 Location: Geelong

yeah mine changed went from 390 week to 385. asshats.

Michael.
cussing

Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

they ignored my assessment of % care and placed 100% on to mum - payments went down by about half I think though, because of my dependant.

We get along, and couldn't give a rats about CSA.

Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Location: Melbourne

Quote:

Barnsey wrote:

This is priceless! Very Happy

Now that I can afford it, my CSA payments have actually dropped $300 a month, with the new CSA scheme. Rolling Eyes

My ex, who insists on going through CSA, is having a hissy fit about it too. #Rofl

I've always been willing and able to pay her directly, and I've never avoided the financial support of my kids..............

Every time she's needlessly skitched the CSA on to me, she's finished up with less $$ than I've offered to pay.

Now it's bitten her on her fat bum, big time.

Bugger me, she might have to work an extra day a month to "make ends meet"

Love it! Very Happy

Did you know that it cost the CSA $5 for every $1 they collect from separated dads?

Bullshit, isn't it? Confused

My payments have GONE UP 8 times what I was paying Confused

Not worried, dosnt come in till July 1 .
It will ALL change by then armsup

AND I WILL " FINALLY" get to see my kids armsup

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

hey barnsey, is there a formula or a calculator somewhere to use to work it out.

a good mate of mine is getting shafted hard when it comes to CSA (his mrs claims $0 income despite working full time etc), and he's interested to see if the new formula won't help his situation.

Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Location: North West Qld

bad_religion_au wrote:

hey barnsey, is there a formula or a calculator somewhere to use to work it out.

a good mate of mine is getting shafted hard when it comes to CSA (his mrs claims $0 income despite working full time etc), and he's interested to see if the new formula won't help his situation.

Yes, there is a calculator on the CSA web site, but by now, new assessments should have been sent out to both payers and payees.

It's more complicated than before........but seems to be slightly fairer

Joined: 11 May 2004 Location: Melbourne

bad_religion_au wrote:

a good mate of mine is getting shafted hard when it comes to CSA (his mrs claims $0 income despite working full time etc)

This s**ts me big time as they always seem to get away with it, and the people who do the right thing get shafted.

Most prob going to get flamed for this but here goes.

I don't mind people dobbing these people in, as it cost every one who pays taxes. Plus the people who do the right thing, lose out by being double hit. One with taxes and then by CSA, as both are taken out of gross and then you have to try and live on the left overs.

Mere

Joined: 12 Dec 2002 Location: Wangaratta

MereMale wrote:

bad_religion_au wrote:

a good mate of mine is getting shafted hard when it comes to CSA (his mrs claims $0 income despite working full time etc)

This s**ts me big time as they always seem to get away with it, and the people who do the right thing get shafted.

Most prob going to get flamed for this but here goes.

I don't mind people dobbing these people in, as it cost every one who pays taxes. Plus the people who do the right thing, lose out by being double hit. One with taxes and then by CSA, as both are taken out of gross and then you have to try and live on the left overs.

Mere

No issues with dobbing in dodgy bastards (male or female) here.

Joined: 24 Nov 2004 Location: gold coast

Mine stayed the same , but had to share a funny story. The x misses was gettin her far share via agreed payment per month, got the sads on because i wouldnt put it in the bank on the day she specified and couldnt control me any more. put me in to csa for everythging she could think of and more, so the dude rings me and says you been put in blah blah now we gota collect it for her. Says how much ya been payin?, approx 300 a month i say but what does it say i gota pay on your sheet , bah hah bah hah 10 bucks a week , So i said we better do it by the book then to keep her happy (guess her response) priceless

Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Location: S/E QLD

I think most responsable fathers want to support their children, what pisses them off is that they have to pay the ex..... not that I have a solution for the problem.

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

love_mud wrote:

No issues with dobbing in dodgy bastards (male or female) here.

yeah good luck with that.

CSA won't do shit if it's the female rorting the system.

above mentioned mate put in a complaint saying that she was working, and that should be taken into account.

they were like "if she doesn't tell us she's working, what would you like us to do about it".

"cross reference it against her tax?"

"we don't have that ability"

"then how did you find out when i got a payrise last time?"

"what, don't you want to support your kids?"

and the chick that's living with me that had centrelink drama, her mum continued to claim child support after she moved out. The chick that lives with me complained to CSA saying that it was unfair that her dad had to pay child support when she wasn't living there.

CSA response... "the case isn't your business"

when she contacted her dad, he complained, and they said "we can't stop payments until SHE tells us that her daughter isn't living at home.

CSA is . useless unless it comes to putting the pressure on dads.

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

RED60 wrote:

I think most responsable fathers want to support their children, what pisses them off is that they have to pay the ex..... not that I have a solution for the problem.

force the mother to fill in an itemised statement of where the money goes every month, including reciept numbers...

Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Location: Melbourne

[quote="bad_religion_au"]

love_mud wrote:

No issues with dobbing in dodgy bastards (male or female) here.

yeah good luck with that.

Quote:

CSA won't do shit if it's the female rorting the system.

I beg to differ armsup

Long story short :
I had been paying my Ex 5 times what she was supposed to get ( I did it for the kids - made me feel good, even though the Ex earnt more than 4 times what I earnt a year Confused

)
Anyway, she rang child support and said I wasnt paying her ????. ( I was paying by cheque )

Outcome :
They "finally" discovered she was out to cause TROUBLE, and they did a bit of homework on her ( ummmmm, I helped a bit Very Happy

), and they cleaned her up armsup

Ohhhhhhhh, how I love the Child Support Agency armsup

Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland

mavzilla wrote:

Mine stayed the same , but had to share a funny story. The x misses was gettin her far share via agreed payment per month, got the sads on because i wouldnt put it in the bank on the day she specified and couldnt control me any more. put me in to csa for everythging she could think of and more, so the dude rings me and says you been put in blah blah now we gota collect it for her. Says how much ya been payin?, approx 300 a month i say but what does it say i gota pay on your sheet , bah hah bah hah 10 bucks a week , So i said we better do it by the book then to keep her happy (guess her response) priceless

Thats fantastic Mazvilla!!!

RED60 wrote:

I think most responsable fathers want to support their children, what pisses them off is that they have to pay the ex..... not that I have a solution for the problem.

You can arrrange for moneys to be paid into a trust fund for your child(ren). But the idea is to help with the cost of raising the child, so it depends on the financial position o fteh X (ie. remarried and have enough $$)

Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Location: Kings Park, NSW

4130warrior wrote:

JESS YOU ARE BANNED FROM USING THAT SAYING!!!

x eleventybilliongazillion!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

[quote="TheGatta"]

bad_religion_au wrote:

love_mud wrote:

No issues with dobbing in dodgy bastards (male or female) here.

yeah good luck with that.

Quote:

CSA won't do shit if it's the female rorting the system.

I beg to differ armsup

Long story short :
I had been paying my Ex 5 times what she was supposed to get ( I did it for the kids - made me feel good, even though the Ex earnt more than 4 times what I earnt a year Confused

)
Anyway, she rang child support and said I wasnt paying her ????. ( I was paying by cheque )

Outcome :
They "finally" discovered she was out to cause TROUBLE, and they did a bit of homework on her ( ummmmm, I helped a bit Very Happy

), and they cleaned her up armsup

Ohhhhhhhh, how I love the Child Support Agency armsup

got a contact number for who to talk to then? the drones behind the counter will not do anything. i've got 2 dads that i know of that are being fleeced.

another question is, would they have bothered to investigate if it was YOU not HER that filed the complaint?

Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Location: Melbourne

[quote="bad_religion_au"]

TheGatta wrote:

bad_religion_au wrote:

love_mud wrote:

No issues with dobbing in dodgy bastards (male or female) here.

yeah good luck with that.

Quote:

CSA won't do shit if it's the female rorting the system.

I beg to differ armsup

Long story short :
I had been paying my Ex 5 times what she was supposed to get ( I did it for the kids - made me feel good, even though the Ex earnt more than 4 times what I earnt a year Confused

)
Anyway, she rang child support and said I wasnt paying her ????. ( I was paying by cheque )

Outcome :
They "finally" discovered she was out to cause TROUBLE, and they did a bit of homework on her ( ummmmm, I helped a bit Very Happy

), and they cleaned her up armsup

Ohhhhhhhh, how I love the Child Support Agency armsup

got a contact number for who to talk to then? the drones behind the counter will not do anything. i've got 2 dads that i know of that are being fleeced.

Quote:

another question is, would they have bothered to investigate if it was YOU not HER that filed the complaint?

I didnt make the complaint. I just responded to the accusation that I wasnt paying her Confused

.

Enough is enough ! After 5 years on " NON STOP " bullshyt from her ( regarding EVERYTHING I did ( in regard to the children, payments, holidays --- and I mean, it was NON STOP ) I had had enough.

And a tip for the newly seperated ---- It dosnt matter how well you get on with your Ex --- KEEP RECORDS !!!!!!! --- on EVERYTHING !!!, and I mean " EVERYTHING " --- Every phone call, every conversation ( regarding children ), every note the Ex leaves you, every sms the Ex sends you, every payment you have made ( AND " DONT " PAY BY CASH ) , if the kids say something that could be relavent ( concerning their wellbeing ) --- KEEP A DIARY ( times, dates, location, witnesses, etc, etc ) because chances are that down the track it is going to get nasty.

I have kept a diary/s since 2000, which a Barristers and 2 Solicitors have seen and there is a common theme in regard to the Ex trying to keep the kids away from me. ( The writings have to be provable though ) They have said, these diary`s are " gold "

With what I have produced to the CSA ( all provable ) you wouldnt believe the " off the record " conversations I have had with them armsup

( and I dealt with a female Shocked

)

BUT -- Im about to do battle with the Ex in Court again soon.
We will see what happens Wink

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Location: Pilbara WA

I hate hearing these horry stories as I am just about to go through this myself. Mrs & 4yo daughter left for Tassie (long way from the Pilbara) 2 weeks ago. I have no problem paying the assessed $281 per week for my daughter, but my contact with her will be almost non existent. There is the phone of course but thats it other than the trips I hope to do down there to see her. How about this though, my pay just went up $9500 per year but my payments will be reduced to $238 per week when new rules come in after financial year. We do still get on though (at the moment) so I hope she doesn't turn into an a$$hole down the track. As I have found out though, private agreements don't seem to be worth a knob of goat shyt as the relevant authorities still have the final say (from what I can make out of this flawed system anyway). We have agreed on weekly payments, division of assetts, etc, so I hope tha CSA, etc don't f*ck this up as all that will achieve is animosity betweem me & ex, ultimately affecting my daughter.

Joined: 08 Jul 2007 Location: nth brissy

jaztaz wrote:

I hate hearing these horry stories as I am just about to go through this myself. Mrs & 4yo daughter left for Tassie (long way from the Pilbara) 2 weeks ago. I have no problem paying the assessed $281 per week for my daughter, but my contact with her will be almost non existent. There is the phone of course but thats it other than the trips I hope to do down there to see her. How about this though, my pay just went up $9500 per year but my payments will be reduced to $238 per week when new rules come in after financial year. We do still get on though (at the moment) so I hope she doesn't turn into an a$$hole down the track. As I have found out though, private agreements don't seem to be worth a knob of goat shyt as the relevant authorities still have the final say (from what I can make out of this flawed system anyway). We have agreed on weekly payments, division of assetts, etc, so I hope tha CSA, etc don't f*ck this up as all that will achieve is animosity betweem me & ex, ultimately affecting my daughter.

I had a similar setup with my ex. Next thing i know i get a bill from CSA Mad

, my best advise is if you can put a little away per week , that way if all of a sudden things go pear shaped you do have a buffer zone .

We had done up a list of house stuff and divided it all up fairly , next thing you know she moved out with all of the agreed stuff plus anything else she felt like, while i was at work cussing

Dont hesssitate in getting legal advise , i didnt bother as i thought all was sorted , cost me big in the long run Mad

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

jaztaz wrote:

I hate hearing these horry stories as I am just about to go through this myself. Mrs & 4yo daughter left for Tassie (long way from the Pilbara) 2 weeks ago. I have no problem paying the assessed $281 per week for my daughter, but my contact with her will be almost non existent. There is the phone of course but thats it other than the trips I hope to do down there to see her. How about this though, my pay just went up $9500 per year but my payments will be reduced to $238 per week when new rules come in after financial year. We do still get on though (at the moment) so I hope she doesn't turn into an a$$hole down the track. As I have found out though, private agreements don't seem to be worth a knob of goat shyt as the relevant authorities still have the final say (from what I can make out of this flawed system anyway). We have agreed on weekly payments, division of assetts, etc, so I hope tha CSA, etc don't f*ck this up as all that will achieve is animosity betweem me & ex, ultimately affecting my daughter.

your breaking up for a reason, it was a loving relationship that went bad, THERE IS animosity there. plus most people (fought the urge to say women) are greedy as fawk, so expect the worst.

That really shits me when i hear about the woman moving interstate, say to be with a new boyfriend or whatever.

if there is joint custody, then neither party should be able to move (this is about the kids, not the two that thought it would be agood idea to have them). if one has total custody, then go right ahead and move (total custody is usually granted for a good reason).

also i think it's bullshit that dad's should have to pay child support if, through no fault of their own, they lose the ability to see their kids.

Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Location: Cooma

Quote:

jaztaz
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:47 am

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I hate hearing these horry stories as I am just about to go through this myself. Mrs & 4yo daughter left for Tassie (long way from the Pilbara) 2 weeks ago. I have no problem paying the assessed $281 per week for my daughter, but my contact with her will be almost non existent. There is the phone of course but thats it other than the trips I hope to do down there to see her. How about this though, my pay just went up $9500 per year but my payments will be reduced to $238 per week when new rules come in after financial year. We do still get on though (at the moment) so I hope she doesn't turn into an a$$hole down the track. As I have found out though, private agreements don't seem to be worth a knob of goat shyt as the relevant authorities still have the final say (from what I can make out of this flawed system anyway). We have agreed on weekly payments, division of assetts, etc, so I hope tha CSA, etc don't f*ck this up as all that will achieve is animosity betweem me & ex, ultimately affecting my daughter.

bad_religion_au
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 1:30 pm

your breaking up for a reason, it was a loving relationship that went bad, THERE IS animosity there. plus most people (fought the urge to say women) are greedy as fawk, so expect the worst.

That really shits me when i hear about the woman moving interstate, say to be with a new boyfriend or whatever.

if there is joint custody, then neither party should be able to move (this is about the kids, not the two that thought it would be agood idea to have them). if one has total custody, then go right ahead and move (total custody is usually granted for a good reason).

also i think it's bullshit that dad's should have to pay child support if, through no fault of their own, they lose the ability to see their kids.

I've been through a similar experience and all I can say is, jaztaz wat the fawk are you doing lettinr ex move without your consent?? Go through the courts man if you didn't agree to it.

good on you for paying your support mate. I don't have a problem paying mine either. bad religion au, with a good risk of getting shot in the arse for saying, some people miss the point of these payments. It's not a child ACCESS or EX-SUPPORT payment, its CHILD SUPPORT payment. Do your sums and, in most cases not all Twisted Evil

you'll probably find it reasonably fair (think of cost of food, everyday & school clothing, school fees, school books, transport/cost of to soccer/ballet lessons, electricity even - it's about the kid and both of you providing them with what they had when you were together. As long as your ex IS giving all that to your kids.........

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Location: Pilbara WA

She wanted another child, I didn't right now. Up & left, simple as that. Only possitive is my daughter will get to see her grandparents, cousins, etc. both sides of our families. All is going good for everyone involved, miss her heaps tho...

Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Location: North West Qld

Update............since someone else dug the thread up.

I'm still paying my ex at the old rate............$300 more than I need to.

I could actually reduce my payable amount down even more because I can claim expenses to have contact visits with my kids .......airfares accommodation in TSV, etc.

I thought it would make for some peace, but, well, that's a pipe dream.

I imagine my ex will still lob grenades at me in 2050, for old times sake Rolling Eyes

Oh well, I'm OK, kids are OK.........that's all that matters.

As I said in another thread, put the kids first in all your decisions and things work out. Mrs B and me have done that since day one, (6 years ago now) and it's all good. It's a shame our ex's can't put their neurosis second.

Makes me wonder who the adults are sometimes. Rolling Eyes