60series steering upgrade on the 40

Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Location: Greenbank

Muz103 wrote:

Hi Guys,

I'm following this closely cause I'm about to do the same to my 40 in a month or two ... starting to source parts in the next few weeks etc...

TWISTY wrote:

thing I hate about my setup is the 75 series column, would have modified the stock one or used a 55 series one if I did it again.

Out of curiosity... what is it about the 75 column that you don't like?

They look like crap. As they dont match anything inside. Or come close with lining up with the dash at all. And this makes them look really unfinished.

The 55 columns are still out there. I bought one from Ipswich spare parts the other day for $40 for my 45 when i get around to the conversion. Although i think i will shorten the column before i install it. In a 45 Ute the extra 3" in length will be a PITA.

Joined: 06 May 2007 Location: Maitland NSW

Thanks ruff - I thought it might have been along those lines...

55 column it is.

Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Location: the sticks - Tas

RUFF wrote:

Muz103 wrote:

Hi Guys,

I'm following this closely cause I'm about to do the same to my 40 in a month or two ... starting to source parts in the next few weeks etc...

TWISTY wrote:

thing I hate about my setup is the 75 series column, would have modified the stock one or used a 55 series one if I did it again.

Out of curiosity... what is it about the 75 column that you don't like?

They look like crap. As they dont match anything inside. Or come close with lining up with the dash at all. And this makes them look really unfinished.

The 55 columns are still out there. I bought one from Ipswich spare parts the other day for $40 for my 45 when i get around to the conversion. Although i think i will shorten the column before i install it. In a 45 Ute the extra 3" in length will be a PITA.

X2,

and also the indercator stalk is 75, so you need to mess around with the wiring...

Visit my Shed · Joined: 15 Jul 2003 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD

Yeah, my 75 series looks like shit....I hate it! and still dont know how I will get it to look half decent.

I originally planned to wire up all the 75 series indicator stalks etc. but just modified the std. 40 series one to fit for now.

Heres a pic of how sh!t it looks. Cause the std. 75 series plastics only cover the top 150mm the bottom of all the column remains exposed. Am thinking of getting Komited Kustoms to fold up a sheet metal surround for it and seeing how that looks. But would probably be better off spending the $$ to get a 55 series one working in mine.

Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Location: Your Mummas House!

TWISTY wrote:

Yeah, my 75 series looks like shit....I hate it! and still dont know how I will get it to look half decent.

I originally planned to wire up all the 75 series indicator stalks etc. but just modified the std. 40 series one to fit for now.

Heres a pic of how sh!t it looks. Cause the std. 75 series plastics only cover the top 150mm the bottom of all the column remains exposed. Am thinking of getting Komited Kustoms to fold up a sheet metal surround for it and seeing how that looks. But would probably be better off spending the $$ to get a 55 series one working in mine.

On my latest one I came through much higher on the firewall, and through the centre of your dash cut-out... moved the whole column on much less angle and higher up.... Hard to explain, but looks heaps neater, had to move the speedo over to the centre of the dash. no pics :(

Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Location: Your Mummas House!

RUFF wrote:

Muz103 wrote:

Hi Guys,

I'm following this closely cause I'm about to do the same to my 40 in a month or two ... starting to source parts in the next few weeks etc...

TWISTY wrote:

thing I hate about my setup is the 75 series column, would have modified the stock one or used a 55 series one if I did it again.

Out of curiosity... what is it about the 75 column that you don't like?

They look like crap. As they dont match anything inside. Or come close with lining up with the dash at all. And this makes them look really unfinished.

The 55 columns are still out there. I bought one from Ipswich spare parts the other day for $40 for my 45 when i get around to the conversion. Although i think i will shorten the column before i install it. In a 45 Ute the extra 3" in length will be a PITA.

Is the 55 a tilt column? sick!

Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Location: Greenbank

bj on roids wrote:

Is the 55 a tilt column? sick!

No.

Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Location: Your Mummas House!

Thats what I thought, then why bother with it? has headlights on column i suppose?

Why not just stick with the 40 series column.

There is a 40 on youtube which has the PIMPenest 100 series interior, including steering wheel and engine Very Happy

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

bj on roids wrote:

Thats what I thought, then why bother with it? has headlights on column i suppose?

Why not just stick with the 40 series column.

There is a 40 on youtube which has the PIMPenest 100 series interior, including steering wheel and engine Very Happy

easier to use a 55 series column than get a bearing pressed onto the bottom of the 40 column.

Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Location: Greenbank

bj on roids wrote:

Thats what I thought, then why bother with it? has headlights on column i suppose?

Why not just stick with the 40 series column.

There is a 40 on youtube which has the PIMPenest 100 series interior, including steering wheel and engine Very Happy

Because the 40 series column has no support bearing in the bottom of the shaft and also there is no way to attach a uni joint to it as it has no spline on the end. Only a set of ears to attach a rag joint which you do not want when doing the 60 series power steer conversion.

The 55 column has both the bearing and spline and it still looks like a stock 40 column except its approx 3" longer which most people would never notice.

Here is a 40 series in Pakistan with a 70 series dash fitted-

Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Location: Your Mummas House!

bad_religion_au wrote:

bj on roids wrote:

Thats what I thought, then why bother with it? has headlights on column i suppose?

Why not just stick with the 40 series column.

There is a 40 on youtube which has the PIMPenest 100 series interior, including steering wheel and engine Very Happy

easier to use a 55 series column than get a bearing pressed onto the bottom of the 40 column.

You can use a bush or bearing and run it inside the main shaft... and then bolt a steel plate to the bottom of the colum and use the uni join thing off a feroza... plenty of options

Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Location: Your Mummas House!

Any more pics of exactly how that 40-75 dash was done, that looks FANTASTIC!

Visit my Shed · Joined: 15 Jul 2003 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD

70 series dash might be one way to get my ugly 70 series colum to look half decent....so as BJ said, any more pics or details?

Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Location: Penrith

hey guys,
i noticed some of you are interested in a 55 colum.. i got one on ebay right now cheap heres a link: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FJ55-Steering-Colum-for-fj40-fj45-bj40-bj42_W0QQitemZ170216483783QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6763QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

good luck!
Mitch

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Location: somewhere out there

I am also aware of a 55 that still has a steering column at the wreckers @ boundry Rd wacol (sorry dont have a name or number)..

They had a all you can carry day for $50 (or something) and I noticed there was a 55 in their yard that still had a steering column.. didnt grab it though .. so if anyone in brissy wants it.. go for it. (Twisty, if your interested let me know. I could go grab it for you).

Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Location: Rockhampton

The mod i done to my 55ser s/column worked well i got a 47ser 1 with steering lock machined the sleeve off then machine a male and female ends onto the shortened 55 shaft welded it back together !/ this type of butt joint gives u the best strenght n penertration wit a good hot weld rotatin the shaft i was lucky had access to a w/shop with a lathe used for t/shafts and machined it down again repostioned the sleeve over the welded part and welded it on this keeps the shaft strenght n no1 would know any different.
Another 1 I did for a guy he paid a gear n spline machine shop to shorten the steering wheel end to the lenght of an original 45ser shaft.
Both ways needs the outer tube to be shortened also but that is the easy part.

Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Location: Greenbank

shorty_f0rty wrote:

I am also aware of a 55 that still has a steering column at the wreckers @ boundry Rd wacol (sorry dont have a name or number)..

They had a all you can carry day for $50 (or something) and I noticed there was a 55 in their yard that still had a steering column.. didnt grab it though .. so if anyone in brissy wants it.. go for it. (Twisty, if your interested let me know. I could go grab it for you).

This column is now gone. I was in there today and someone has allready got it. If anyone is still after one i found 2 more elsewhere today. One is totally complete and the other is missing the shrouds. If you are after one PM me and i will let you know where they are.

Visit my Shed · Joined: 15 Jul 2003 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD

Picture doesn't show it real well, but do you think a 55 series column could be made to work with my 75 series intermediate shaft? Will the uni's on this fit the 55 spline?

Also does the 40 series ignition barrel fit the 55 column? When I went to the 75 i had to get a new ignition barrel and door locks....$$$ Wouldn't want to have to do that again.

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Location: somewhere out there

hey Twisty..

yeh it will work with a 75 intermediate.. this is what I have used. The 55 column just pokes a splined end out thru the firewall.. an 80 series cushion joint will join the splined 55 shaft to the 75 intermediate.

not sure if ignition barrels are the same. ive just swapped everything cept the center shaft across and didnt have to worry about busting out ignition barrels.

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

shorty_f0rty wrote:

hey Twisty..

yeh it will work with a 75 intermediate.. this is what I have used. The 55 column just pokes a splined end out thru the firewall.. an 80 series cushion joint will join the splined 55 shaft to the 75 intermediate.

not sure if ignition barrels are the same. ive just swapped everything cept the center shaft across and didnt have to worry about busting out ignition barrels.

ignition barrel is the same. i used my 40 ignition barrel in the 55 column because the wrecker couldn't find the keys to suit the column.

Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Location: Your Mummas House!

TWISTY wrote:

70 series dash might be one way to get my ugly 70 series colum to look half decent....so as BJ said, any more pics or details?

yeah... cmawwwn, someone get that pakistani guy on here.

Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Location: Greenbank

bj on roids wrote:

TWISTY wrote:

70 series dash might be one way to get my ugly 70 series colum to look half decent....so as BJ said, any more pics or details?

yeah... cmawwwn, someone get that pakistani guy on here.

Thats all i have. They were posted on Pirate by ehsankiani.

Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Location: Your Mummas House!

RUFF wrote:

bj on roids wrote:

TWISTY wrote:

70 series dash might be one way to get my ugly 70 series colum to look half decent....so as BJ said, any more pics or details?

yeah... cmawwwn, someone get that pakistani guy on here.

Thats all i have. They were posted on Pirate by ehsankiani.

go on, PM him for more pics/details he is fairly good!

Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Location: Greenbank

bj on roids wrote:

RUFF wrote:

bj on roids wrote:

TWISTY wrote:

70 series dash might be one way to get my ugly 70 series colum to look half decent....so as BJ said, any more pics or details?

yeah... cmawwwn, someone get that pakistani guy on here.

Thats all i have. They were posted on Pirate by ehsankiani.

go on, PM him for more pics/details he is fairly good!

Im ahead of you. He is allready on to it and knows about this thread. May take him a month before he gets near the vehicle again though.

Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Location: Your Mummas House!

RUFF wrote:

bj on roids wrote:

RUFF wrote:

bj on roids wrote:

TWISTY wrote:

70 series dash might be one way to get my ugly 70 series colum to look half decent....so as BJ said, any more pics or details?

yeah... cmawwwn, someone get that pakistani guy on here.

Thats all i have. They were posted on Pirate by ehsankiani.

go on, PM him for more pics/details he is fairly good!

Im ahead of you. He is allready on to it and knows about this thread. May take him a month before he gets near the vehicle again though.

dayum, that would be an awesome conversion!

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Location: Brisvagas

So how come no one uses the 60 Series steering column and intermediate shaft?

Never had a look at the 60s gear but would have thought it would be better to keep the whole system together. unless length/clearances is an issue...

nice work on the 40 dash above...

so tell us how the steerings going now shorty...

will be looking at mine soon - anyone got some tips about fitting this around a holden V8?

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Location: somewhere out there

hey hey.. the steering is great.. havent had any issues and ive noticed a bit of a difference cos its heaps easier to steer in particular places than it was before.

double thumbs up on the upgrade tho.. well worth it..

in regards to yer 60 query i think its cos the gear might be too long.. I think ray has a 60 column with all the bits on the column instead of the dash.. personally i like mine on the dash.

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

little rusty wrote:

So how come no one uses the 60 Series steering column and intermediate shaft?

Never had a look at the 60s gear but would have thought it would be better to keep the whole system together. unless length/clearances is an issue...

nice work on the 40 dash above...

so tell us how the steerings going now shorty...

will be looking at mine soon - anyone got some tips about fitting this around a holden V8?

60 column is too long for the cab, and 60 intermediate shaft is too short

Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Location: melbourne australia

the 75 colum can be shortened and nealy fits perfectly with only a slight mod on the mounting point

the whole colum is designed to crush in an accident so if you clamp the mount point in a vice then hit the bottom using a block of wood and a hammer you can compress(shorten) the entire colum

mine only has 30mm of it exposed from the dash and uses the standard 40 mount points

its still abit low but im used to it now and recon its sweet

ive also wired up the 75 indicator switch and ignition wipers are a headache and i couldnt make them work with the 40 wipers headlights are next but they will require relays as the 40 switch switches all the power whereas the 75 just switches relays

ill get pics tomorrow if anyone is interested

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Location: Brisvagas

thanks guys - any concerns over fitting it around a v8 block though?