A almost bolt in upgrade altinator for a GQ up to 110amp!

Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Location: Forest Hill Melbourne

I have found that there is a different model car (which will stayed unnamed for now) which can fit into a GQ 4.2 petrol top hole where the adjuster is small amount of grinding then bottom braket just needs cutting and welding.

if all testing goes to planned it is now bolted into car and no problems for the next couple of weeks i will be making a small kit which will then make it a bolt in up grade for people to buy!

Steve

Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Location: Geelong

well speak up.... need more info....

AND PICS !!

P.S i have an EL Falcon one that sounds very similar

Joined: 27 Nov 2002 Location: Lost in Melbourne.

not 110, but 90 amp are $247 new
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/ftopic29301.php&highlight=alternator

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 9:40 am

110A and on the same side, it has to be a ford altinator, sorry to rain on your parade though! Very Happy

Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Location: Carrum Downs V Posts: 3330

I have a 200 amp altinator that I was going to use, but I never even got around to trial fitting it, before I sold the car.

I should chuck it in the Classifieds....

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:07 pm

back in early 90's i used to use falcon ones on my gq shorty.

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:12 pm

yea the falcon ones are quite powerful, certainly shits all over our pissy 50A ones Very Happy

i think i might fit one this weekend actually after checking brackets out at the local wrecking yard Very Happy

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Location: South Bris

I run a Leese Neville 140amp alternator and haven't modified the standard mount at all! A bit of grinding was need on the inlet manifold but otherwise bolt in. I have run it for over 2 years with no trouble. Some machined spacers make up the gap from the original mount to the larger legs on the bottom. Here's some shots for those interested. It will run 6 100w spots + 2 110w radio etc on full charge at idle Twisted Evil

Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Location: Geelong

micks troll wrote:

I run a Leese Neville 140amp alternator and haven't modified the standard mount at all! A bit of grinding was need on the inlet manifold but otherwise bolt in. I have run it for over 2 years with no trouble. Some machined spacers make up the gap from the original mount to the larger legs on the bottom. Here's some shots for those interested. It will run 6 100w spots + 2 110w radio etc on full charge at idle Twisted Evil

Where would one aquire said unit ?

Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Location: brisbane

tj81 wrote:

micks troll wrote:

I run a Leese Neville 140amp alternator and haven't modified the standard mount at all! A bit of grinding was need on the inlet manifold but otherwise bolt in. I have run it for over 2 years with no trouble. Some machined spacers make up the gap from the original mount to the larger legs on the bottom. Here's some shots for those interested. It will run 6 100w spots + 2 110w radio etc on full charge at idle Twisted Evil

Where would one aquire said unit ?

AEA (auto electrics australia)

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Location: South Bris

Where would one aquire said unit ?[/quote]

I originally aquired it from Herbohn's Auto Electrics in Kingaroy when working there and i rebuilt it with help from my mate working there at the time. The pulley isnt standard as I had to get one that worked in the limit of the original bracket etc. (it was one lying around) 1MadEngineer states AEA which will help closer to home. Cheers Mick

Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: New Zealand

Mick's Troll

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I run a Leese Neville 140amp alternator

Did you upgrade the feed from the alternator to the battery or was the original cable big enough?

David[/quote]

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Location: South Bris

David_S wrote:

Mick's Troll

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I run a Leese Neville 140amp alternator

Did you upgrade the feed from the alternator to the battery or was the original cable big enough?

David

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Yes it was, it was upgraded not sure by how much, see the blue cable in pic Embarassed

too long ago. The plug into the back was spliced to suit the new plug but in worse case the old alternator can be still used thanks to my mates help back in 2004. It hasn't been out since Cool

sorry i cant be of more help. Hence i no longer do auto electric work anymore. Much easier being a boily Laughing

Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: New Zealand

Quote:

Yes it was, it was upgraded not sure by how much, see the blue cable in pic Embarassed too long ago. The plug into the back was spliced to suit the new plug but in worse case the old alternator can be still used thanks to my mates help back in 2004.

Thanks, I thought it would have to be. Looks pretty meaty.

David

Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Location: Murrumba Downs, Brisbane

i have a 70 amp bosch vl commodore alt in mine, bolted straight in

just had to change the plug, and space out the bottom foot so its a tight fit

simple

Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Location: Boronia,Vic

I herd that patrolapart in melb are developing one with about 150 amp about 4 months ago havn't been back since

Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Location: Forest Hill Melbourne

Well after running it for about 2 weeks i have had no problems. Now for every one to run out to get one it is a EF falcon one!

the statement from patrolapart well lets say they said we have one coming in a couple of weeks but keeps talking alot of crap and saids its still coming..... this was back in Jan this year where he told me it was a week away. I told him about the EF falcon one and he said it was crap and didnt work... ow well

Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Location: sydney

chops wrote:

i have a 70 amp bosch vl commodore alt in mine, bolted straight in

just had to change the plug, and space out the bottom foot so its a tight fit

simple

Most bosch alt casings are interchangeable, so if the dunny dore is easier to fit, use the casings and bung in a 120 amp internals.

had a denso outer front housing onto a 120 bosch alt, worked fine and easy up grade on a 22r 4runner.

for the rear i used a home made bracket that bolted onto the back of the alt

Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Location: Geelong

steveoo wrote:

Well after running it for about 2 weeks i have had no problems. Now for every one to run out to get one it is a EF falcon one!

the statement from patrolapart well lets say they said we have one coming in a couple of weeks but keeps talking alot of crap and saids its still coming..... this was back in Jan this year where he told me it was a week away. I told him about the EF falcon one and he said it was crap and didnt work... ow well

Ok question time.

What did you do with the belt pulley? I found that you had to extend the length of it so that it would not rub on the housing ?

What did you do with the bottom mounts. I found the bolt holes were too small for the bolt to go through, so they needed to be drilled out, and also the spacing was wrong so either needed spacers made up or cut and shut.

Any pics of how you went about it ?

Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Location: Forest Hill Melbourne

1. pull the pully off the GQ one and also there is a spacer behind the pully and put that onto the EF one

2. top braket standard is bolt through the adjuster then there is a thread in the alternator. what you have to do is take the EF falcon one to a bolt place and get a bolt which will sit nice in the top hole of the alternator then ether tap a thread into the little adjuster block or drill it out and put a nut on the other end. You will also have to slot the adjuster arm a bit so the bolt can slide through the adjuster.

3. you have the front hole and rear hole get the bolt off the EF falcon drill out the 2 holes on the gq braket so the bolt will go through (since standard there is a thread) and then get the bottom GQ braket and cut the rear braket off bolt is through the alternator so it will be in the new spot and weld it in place

also you will have the change the ring on the end of the main charging wire since its a bigger bolt out the back of the alternator

any more questions fire away will get some pictures soon

Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Location: Banks Peninsula, NZ

Did the vacuum or oil feed bolt straight onto the falcon alternator?
The Safari's have the Hitachi unit - what do the Patrols have on the td42?

Joined: 02 Feb 2007

this topic is for petrol patrol, for the deisel I have used a aftermarket jackaroo upgrade 120amp there is also a 120 amp upgrade for the GQ but they had none in stock.

Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Location: Banks Peninsula, NZ

sorry didn't realise that. Can you tell me what brand of alt are used for the upgrades other than Jackaroo?

Joined: 02 Feb 2007

I dont know the brand name but they were imported from india I think. Could be AEA?

Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Location: In The Good Country

twodiffs wrote:

Did the vacuum or oil feed bolt straight onto the falcon alternator?
The Safari's have the Hitachi unit - what do the Patrols have on the td42?

They had Hitachi too (GQs) a whopping 60A lol!