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Tony78rr



Joined: 12 Aug 2003
Location: Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Besides a tow bar, what are people using as a 'substantial' rear tow point?
Any ideas (Cheap ones!!!!)
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Maggot4x4



Joined: 04 Jun 2003
Location: Just Near Fraser Island

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:38 am Reply with quote Back to top

Custom rear bar

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TuffRR



Joined: 16 Dec 2002
Location: Neither here nor there

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

Custom bar, recovery hooks mounted onto chassis....
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Bodge



Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Location: Over there

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah custom as well....

Using big hefty U section that goes around the rear crossmember and picks up the 4 attachment points 2 in the middle [vertical] and 2 on the outside [horizontal]. Then have attached a pin reciever style tow point with 18mm grade 8 bolts and a 5mm steel backing plate...

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Bodge



Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Location: Over there

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:03 am Reply with quote Back to top

Oh yeah - its not pretty but it is overbuilt Very Happy

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TuffRR



Joined: 16 Dec 2002
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:13 am Reply with quote Back to top

Its pretty important to have decent recovery hooks on the back of the Rangie coz i keep having to pull other people through Very Happy
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JSBriggs



Joined: 22 Dec 2002
Location: Auburn California USA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:28 am Reply with quote Back to top

Anyone consider an American style receiver hitch? I guess Im lucky the the NAS RR's Disco's and Defenders come from the factory with them.



This enables you to either mount a ball hitch for towing or various recovery gear including a winch.






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modman



Joined: 22 Jul 2003
Location: melbourne

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 6:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

jeff, i don't know if thats an american invention??
every 4wd in aust. has a receiver like that. but they do detract from ultimate ground clearance.
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Bodge



Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Location: Over there

PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

Whats the shear strength of that one pin??

Nissan's weigh a lot man.... Very Happy

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JSBriggs



Joined: 22 Dec 2002
Location: Auburn California USA

PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

modman wrote:
jeff, i don't know if thats an american invention??
every 4wd in aust. has a receiver like that. but they do detract from ultimate ground clearance.


I only say American because they came standard on NAS trucks....

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modman



Joined: 22 Jul 2003
Location: melbourne

PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

if you put a pin with grade 12 rating (bolt) about 12mm it can be 26 tonne!
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Britswed



Joined: 26 Sep 2003
Location: Sydney,Narrabeen

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Custom rear bar
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bazzle



Joined: 24 Nov 2002
Location: Melbourne

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

pin I believe in double shear is about 28 tonnes. (using a square hitch)

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Bodge



Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Location: Over there

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:42 am Reply with quote Back to top

bazzle wrote:
pin I believe in double shear is about 28 tonnes. (using a square hitch)

Bazzle


Should be enough Very Happy
Even a Nissan can't weigh that much....

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modman



Joined: 22 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i don't know?? they need a lot of fuel!!!
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David Lovejoy



Joined: 15 Oct 2003
Location: Devon - England

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:04 am Reply with quote Back to top

Why not just fit two Jate rings and run a bridle between? Very Happy

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Bodge



Joined: 04 Dec 2002
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:25 am Reply with quote Back to top

I had Jate rings and never had a problem - but they are not 'legal' for competition events or for non-Landrover club trips which specify mounting by two rated points to the chassis...

AND I gotta say its easier with the hooks - no more standing in the mud up to my crotch dorking around with two shackles... and no metal attached to the end of your stretchy sling shot recovery rope...

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David Lovejoy



Joined: 15 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

Fairynuff...

It's a strange world we live in!

Genuine Jate rings are loaded to 14,000lbs - more than enough to tear the chassis...

ideal for a Rangey but not for all other makes of 4x4...

I used to like a welded loop from the end of either chassis rail supported by a butterfly plate - stronger than a bolt in any form, then the Motor Sport Assoc said "No"... Ridiculous, still such is life.

Probably best to look at local club rules first then design the recovery point...

I'll stick with the Jates Rings - they have served me well so far!

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modman



Joined: 22 Jul 2003
Location: melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

jate rings look neat, but they're a pita in deep mud trying to get shackles around. i suppose you could leave a bridle permanently connected, hooked over the bullbar.
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landy_man



Joined: 21 Feb 2003
Location: Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i had jate rings on my defender and they were great. just attach a bridle beforehand and then you dont even have to get out the car Very Happy

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modman



Joined: 22 Jul 2003
Location: melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

landyman, what did you use for a bridle??
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landy_man



Joined: 21 Feb 2003
Location: Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

very short tree trunk protector with shackle in the middle
ideally you would want a really short snatch strap, but those are not available....
I have also seen nylon covered steel cable
but I am thinking about possibly some 10 or 12mm plasma rope would also do...
and you could tie the plasma to the bullbar while not using it Wink

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David Lovejoy



Joined: 15 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

A 14 tonne SWL short lifting strap about ten feet long is ideal - with a padded slip collet so you don't need an extra shackle...

Be careful it's not too short or you can pull in the chassis rails under high load... Wink

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modman



Joined: 22 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 4:06 pm Reply with quote Back to top

cheers landyman, good thought.
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David Lovejoy



Joined: 15 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

hmmm - *must check to see if writing invisible posts*

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