Can any one give info on 7" Coil Lift on GU

Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Location: Pacific Pines

I have made a new purchase. 02 Patrol Wagon 3TD. Ready for some serious mods. My mate has a 05 Patrol Wagon 3TD with a 4-5" coil lift along with 35's. His patrol drives really well both on and off road. Of coarse I want two go bigger so was thinking 7" coil lift with 37's. Just not sure how this will handle on the road. No doubt this will be awesome off road. This will be a every day car and serious off road wheeling on the weekends. Also not sure on 37's, will they scrub on inside of guard with wheel travelled all the way up into guard. Up for some feed back.

Joined: 27 Nov 2002 Location: Lost in Melbourne.

Why of course you want to go bigger? Small Pencil syndrome?

Chances are it will handle like shit, COG will suck, and you can fit 36's with a 3inch lift.

FWIW I had 7's in the GQ, and went back to 4inch lift and never regretted it, and when I started the GU build, there was no way I was going 4inch or bigger, just dont need it...

Also costs for 4in and over are quite a bit more as more bits are needed + good luck with engineering.

YMMV

Joined: 26 May 2006 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD

bogged wrote:

Why of course you want to go bigger? Small Pencil. syndrome?

Chances are it will handle like shit, COG will suck, and you can fit 36's with a 3inch lift.

FWIW I had 7's in the GQ, and went back to 4inch lift and never regretted it, and when I started the GU build, there was no way I was going 4inch or bigger, just dont need it...

Also costs for 4in and over are quite a bit more as more bits are needed + good luck with engineering.

YMMV

X2

Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Location: yallourn north,victoria

mate as i put it these blokes are scared 2 take there 4bs bush as u do need ground clearences itsur choice wat u wanna do

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Cable zip tie some 3"+4" springs together..... #Fade in

Joined: 27 Feb 2004 Location: Meadowbrook, Brissie

Dont bother with that high a lift. If someone in or near your 4b farts or sneezes in the wrong direction then youve just f**ked your GU and it will be an interesting time putting it back on its wheels Confused

Joined: 27 Nov 2002 Location: Lost in Melbourne.

GUJohnno wrote:

Cable zip tie some 3"+4" springs together..... #Fade in

solder works better

Joined: 02 Feb 2007

7" lift handles fine when set up with the right shocks there is no compromise for lift if you are a serious 4 wheeler, If you only go to the beach 2" is fine, as far as small pencil my girl freinds wagon runs 6" lift with 2" body, so any one with a 2" lift that feels they can keep up with a girl can come along.

Just cos a 2" fits your perpose dont nock the others cos they will make you eat your words.

Next you will say we dont need more than 3 cylinders cos a lj50 zook can do it

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: wakka wakka land

Well,

For one thing you have purchased a 3L how in the hell are you planning on turning 37's ? you will have to upgrade ratios first to at least 4.8 and it still would be shit.

I put a 7" Lift on my GU I did it properly and it was shit. It was a tough dog kit with proper drop boxes, bushes arms the whole lot... The COG was absolute bull shit didnt handle and makes the 35's i had look pizza cutters... was a waste of time. Need to run the GU with 37's all the time try replacing them at $650 a tyre...

GU's only need 2" lift for 35's and 4" for 37's with the mud flaps removed however you need to ask yourself wheather you really need thoughs large tyres as the money spent on the suspension and tyres well you could just spend it on lockers.

my 2c

Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Location: brisbane

7 inch lift is not easy to set up right expect to send up to 5k to make it work .forget the 37s your 3l will struggle to turn 33s in the bush unless you fit crawler gears. with out lockers you wont go places youll need these mods anyway. as fore you guys who recon you dont need more than 4 inch lift dont come wheelin with us

Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Location: Victoria

I did a 3 week West coast Tassie trip in my mates 3l GU with 35's and 6" springs and it was fine. Handled a lot better than i expected. I wouldnt be put off by what some ppl are saying if thats what you really want. It did sway a little onroad but ahh well you drive a bit slower. We kept up fine through the mountains (on road) with our other mates 80 series with a lot smaller lift.

Jimmy

PS: Although i dont see why you wouldnt just go a 5" lift as it will be a little easier.

Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Location: Sunny Coast, QLD

weeman wrote:

GU's only need 2" lift for 35's and 4" for 37's with the mud flaps removed

Depends on what sort of wheeling your doing.
My 3” lift clears 33’s (fully flexed no swaybars). 35's would fit, with bigger offset and still a bit of rubbing at full flex. I would want to have 4" of lift for 35's.

Joined: 19 Nov 2006 Location: Wollongong

I just removed 7 inch coils and replaced them with 4 inch coils and spacers to level it out, and would like to remove my body lift at some point as well to lower the COG. On a shorty it's much more capable with the lower lift but LWBs seam to handle bigger lifts a bit better. If you want cheap 7 inch King Springs give me a PM.

Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia

This post is useless without pics...

Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Location: Pacific Pines

Well I appreciate all the feedback. Seems as though allot of people are as much for as they are against a 7" lift. As for my 3lt turbo deisel as well as the coil lift and bigger tyres I will be doing plenty more mods. 3" Mandrelbends exhaust and computer chip snorkel etc. So maybe I will go a 4-5" lift with 36's. Who knows, as long as it drives okay on the road and tyres dont scrub too much at full compression and of coarse goes sick off road then I will be very happy.

Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Location: Hobart Tasmania

Go the lift mate if you want it
All these people who say 4 inch lift and 36's are tugging too hard. Ive got 6 inch coils rear and 7's front and 30mm body lift in my gu and run 36" pedes on only 8 inch rims, no swaybars. Yeah it sways around but you learn to drive by it. If you wanted something to handle then buy a sports car. I can still take all the sign posted corners at the legal limit. My diff ratios are 4.6 and i do have the 4.2 diesel but it still pulls 140 maxed out. Ive attached a photo to show you how it sits with the pedes on and my 35's road wranglers.
My 2c worth,
Cheers Simon.

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: wakka wakka land

mate,

do it... if you got your heart set on big lift do it..no one else will detour you from it..

I did, i put in and was in for one night i hated it. Each to there own felt like shit to drive looked nuts but i still wasnt happy. Would maybe do 4" lift but CBF about it at the moment...

so I was happy to put in back down.

my gu with 35's sits the same height as another person i know with a GQ and 6" coils and 35's... however mines far more stable and i rather drive fast then be cautios of the amount of lift i have...

Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Location: Pacific Pines

Looks the goods Superduki. Was their any major mods to do for the 7" coil lift, as apose too a 4-5" coil lift ? Like your rear bar work. Did you do this yourself ? Im defienetly wanting to do something with my plastic rear 1/4 bumpers. They dont seem to like bouncing of rocks real good. Do your 37's foul on inside of guard fully compressed. As in did you need too chop into guard.

Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Location: noosa,qld

hey mate yeah deff id be keen on that lift i got a gq with a 6 inch and i like it but i was just looking at a guys gq with 8 inch springs 2 inch body 10 inch shocks and mt 38/15 tyres and i loved it it was sic as and it still drives fine i mean u loose a bit of power / handleing but yeah u got a 4bie what do u expect and also nothen tuffer then a big rig Smile

good luck what eva u chose

Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Location: Hobart Tasmania

As you can see from my name "superduki" i used to own a sierra. I built that from ground up but i decided to upgrade to something more comfy and reliable. I bought the patrol basically as is, apart from a few things ive modded. The rear bar work was built by the last owner, i can pm you pics of the mounting points if you wish. The 7 inch lift is basically adjustable panhards, 7 inch springs and shocks to suit, the rear arms are all standard, front arms are standard but 7 degree castor plates were used. Im gonna try the superior bolt on 6-8inch lift kit drop boxes as i get the datsun wobble from time to time. I dont run 37's only 36's. They slightly rub but only enough to take the paint off. The 35's clear by about half an inch.
Ive attached a flex shot on the 35's.
Simon.

Joined: 27 Nov 2002 Location: Lost in Melbourne.

Superduki wrote:

All these people who say 4 inch lift and 36's are tugging too hard.

96, 97, 98... Oh hang on.. Bzzzzzzzzzzzz

Q78's on a Grenade on beadlocked 8's with 3inch lift. It worked very well, although the driver was sponge soft....

Roldit's ute on here..

Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Location: Pacific Pines

Nice flex shot Superduki. It would be muchley appreciated if you can pm me pictures of those mounting points for the rear bar work. Thanks

Joined: 02 Feb 2007

One thing People are overlooking is 3l deisel clutchs suck, unless you have a conventional clutch fitted instead of the semi slipping POS, bigger tyres = more load = more clutch slip = no clutch left

I'd get the complete clutch conversion from Nick performance clutches in Brisbane, CNC machined billet flywheel, preasure plate clutch plate n through out bearing. From memery it is about the same price as just the standard nissan flywheel which is usually stuffed by 65000km. Run 4" lift at least n 35's you should alread have 4.6 diff gears it will say HG46 or similar on compliance plate

IF you do hard offraoding you mite want to fit Marks low range reduction gears but I'd cross that bridge when it comes

Choosing lift for the first time is'nt easy as your the only one that knows how you want to drive it, ask around o/l to see if there is someone near you that will take you for a drive in their LIFTED truck n make up your own mind

We are only here to offer suggestions

Joined: 02 Feb 2007

As for engineering once you change the vehicle from original ADR approved specs you take your chances, even with an engineering report the DOT can defect you

If you want engineering problems try living in Qld where I've seen 2"lift canaried on 31's

Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Location: Hobart Tasmania

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Ok then bogged fair call you have squeezed 36's in under minimal lift. Yes your COG would be lower than mine but at least ive got articualation to the max to play with? I live in Tassie so yes i do endure side leans, yes it can be scary at times but ive yet to put it over.
Lift what you wanna lift mate, but if you want big tyres and good articulation, a big lift is required.
My 2c worth.

Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Location: Hobart Tasmania

oops sorry i clicked the quote box. my bad.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:40 am

A big lift can limit atriculation as much as help it. There is more to getting a car to flex well and be usable that just sticking a 7 inch springs and shocks into.

Layto....

Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Location: brisbane

lay80n wrote:

A big lift can limit atriculation as much as help it. There is more to getting a car to flex well and be usable that just sticking a 7 inch springs and shocks into.

Layto....

yeah right if you use coils out of 40 ton truck

Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Location: Hobart Tasmania

you can only get as much flex as the wheel can go before it hits the guards. mine flexes to full travel without touching.

Simon.

Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Location: brisbane

if your tyres dont rub then your wasting travel lol