haultech treated CV's

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Location: somewhere out there

just a few questions about these.. i'm looking at getting some for my 1984 bj42 cruiser..

when i rang and talked to charles about them he said they are just hilux CV's.. although there are a few different sizes, are these going to be suitable for my cruiser front end?

has anyone had any problems with these (ie, are they considerably stronger than stock?)

are any mods required for the diff housing to make these CV's fit?

can anyone offer any more info on these?

thanks.

Andrew

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: Australia

If you dont mind what are they worth? they treat the axels aswell?

Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Location: nsw

do long longfields do a set to suit your truck

http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/

rob

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Location: somewhere out there

i was quoted $300/each for haultech treated CV's. not sure what they do to em.

and I rang Yuri and he's quoting $340/each + postage for his treated CV. He welds a chromoly ring to the bell and does a few other things to beef them up I think..

not sure about the axels.. I guess thats the next thing to go then eh. I should probly bust out the CV tonight and make sure it is the CV ive done and not an axel.. Smile

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Location: somewhere out there

75 cruser wrote:

do long longfields do a set to suit your truck

http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/

rob

not sure if they do to be honest.. im pretty sure im running 30spline axles,.. it would just be axle length that would need confirming..
I think i can run the same CV's from a 60/75 maybe even 80 series... again not 100% sure.

for that price tho its almost worth going straight for longs (i was budgeting around $1000-1200 for longs)..

if its around $800ish it could be worth while..

Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Location: nsw

i know for sure 80s are diffrent, but ill think you will find that they are probley 27 or 28 spline, or some thing like that, ive bought direct from longs and they have been great

rob

Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Location: Ipswich

Heat treated cv's are just a standard unit thats been heat treated not sure about the whole process tho. my lux had a set of profields(heat treated setup) in it when i bought it but they didn't last long. Have a set of longs in there now just the 27 spline on standard axles they haven't failed me yet 30 spline set would be nice for the extra strenght.
Best bet give bobby long a call and ask him directly

Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Location: Spring Mountain, Greenbank.

Get Longs Andrew. I wouldn't bother with anything else. Lifetime warranty up to 39's. Bobby has it sussed. Plus you can go thru Locktup, or I can get them for you.

brooksy

Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Location: Gold Coast/Ormeau

what are they worth for an 80 series?

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

Hilux CV's and late 40 series are the same CV's.

If, by some wierd twist of parts swapping you had an early 40 series front axle, then you may need to take about 1mm out of the "mouth" of the opening that you slide the CV in and out of.

Axle length, i'm pretty sure is the same as lux, but i know Bobby does them for 40 series.

If your running the short hubs (asin), not the long body warn hubs, then they'll bolt up no drama's. the "spline" count that bobby mentions is the Axle - CV spline count. 27 spline is standard, 30 spline moves the weak/fail point to the centre or the free wheeling hubs. the advantage of the 27 spline set is that you can use a standard inner axle or standard CV if you break and don't have a spare long.

but with 30 splines, i doubt that'll be an issue

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Location: somewhere out there

cheers for the info.. i'll keep it in mind as i checked the drivers side this evening and it was fine.. will check the pax side tomorrow night..

im puzzled as to why i can't get any std japanese cv's though.. rang sunshine state 4wd (don kyatts in qld) today and the dude said they only sold chinese cv's these days @ $100/each.. so i wonder where i can get some NTN or japanese made cvs from?

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: In a van down by the river.

The mini truck 27 spline birfield will fit. But Bobby doesn't make inner axles that will work.

Jason

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

locktup4x4 wrote:

The mini truck 27 spline birfield will fit. But Bobby doesn't make inner axles that will work.

Jason

only doesn't make the inner axle to suit the 27 splines, or doesn't make any inner axles to suit 40 series front diff?

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: In a van down by the river.

I talked Bobby today and he doesn't make any axles to fit the 40's.

Jason

Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle, NSW

locktup4x4 wrote:

I talked Bobby today and he doesn't make any axles to fit the 40's.

Jason

somone measure some up for me, shall see if they will fit in my machiene here to cut them just od of the splines and length will do Smile

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

locktup4x4 wrote:

I talked Bobby today and he doesn't make any axles to fit the 40's.

Jason

i think your getting your wires crossed.

a heap of guys on mud have longfields (with longfield inners) in their 40's.

see the following posts

http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/216848-30-spline-longs-length.html

here's one in a bj42

http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/236146-longfield-grinding-question.html

a recent post

http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/234181-finally-broke-birfield.html

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: In a van down by the river.

Crap

. I may have my wires crossed. I will call him tomorrow to make sure I heard him correclty. I was also talking to him about the pre 1979 40 series course spline.

Jason

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

locktup4x4 wrote:

Crap

. I may have my wires crossed. I will call him tomorrow to make sure I heard him correclty. I was also talking to him about the pre 1979 40 series course spline.

Jason

Course spline was pre 1976. in 76 they went fine spline, but with a longer stub shaft

the only upgraded ones available are in the short stub shaft fine spline.

Fine spline ones will work in any 40 housing,, so long as you get a set of free wheeling hubs to suit. easy swap.

oh and course spline CV's were only course spline on the stub axle i think. i have a feeling all the inners were 27 spline fine spline going into the CV joint. i KNOW that the diff end spline is the same no matter if it's course/long fine/ or short fine at the Stub axle.

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: In a van down by the river.

will the mini truck knuckle fit on the 40 housing.

Jason

Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Location: South Australia

locktup4x4 wrote:

will the mini truck knuckle fit on the 40 housing.

Jason

yep, that's one of the most common ways to do a disk brake swap.

Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Location: Wilton

i got longs for my 60 and they where $950 to my door for the fj60 super set and hub gears super set is cvs and axels but that was when the aus dollar was 94 cents they where 30 spline

Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Location: Ipswich

shorty_f0rty wrote:

cheers for the info.. i'll keep it in mind as i checked the drivers side this evening and it was fine.. will check the pax side tomorrow night..

Thats the side that hit the ground when i heard it make a unhealthy sound.

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Location: somewhere out there

Sic Lux wrote:

shorty_f0rty wrote:

cheers for the info.. i'll keep it in mind as i checked the drivers side this evening and it was fine.. will check the pax side tomorrow night..

Thats the side that hit the ground when i heard it make a unhealthy sound.

heheh

yep thats it..

lots of chunky bits in the knuckle.

as much as i'd love some longs I really can't afford them.. besides i'm only wheeling on 33's. so they might be overkill at the moment. I'd probably be able to afford a haultech cv's but only one at a time over a few months..

so no one has anything to add about the haultech cv's now that we've figured out they'll fit my bj42?

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Location: briz

bad_religion_au wrote:

locktup4x4 wrote:

will the mini truck knuckle fit on the 40 housing.

Jason

yep, that's one of the most common ways to do a disk brake swap.

yes,

but you end up with "small" bolt pattern knuckels, not the same as later 40, 60, 70 series cruiser. if you are going high steer (or crossover, whaterver you call it) it limits your options.

use 60 knuckles, spindles etc... and you get vented rotors as well.

maybe the later SAS lux got the big bolt pattern? i know 79~80 and later front disk cruisers did.

hth's
crusty

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Location: briz

shorty_f0rty wrote:

so no one has anything to add about the haultech cv's now that we've figured out they'll fit my bj42?

are you breaking stock birfs at an alarming rate?
you can swap out a lot of "old stock" birfs before you get close to the cost of new after market.

mind you, i'd love a set of longs (or watever) in my 40, but i never could justify the cost, and i have never broken a birf armsup

yes i do wheel.

crusty

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Location: somewhere out there

crustybj60 wrote:

shorty_f0rty wrote:

so no one has anything to add about the haultech cv's now that we've figured out they'll fit my bj42?

are you breaking stock birfs at an alarming rate?
you can swap out a lot of "old stock" birfs before you get close to the cost of new after market.

mind you, i'd love a set of longs (or watever) in my 40, but i never could justify the cost, and i have never broken a birf armsup

yes i do wheel.

crusty

I wouldn't say at an alarming rate.. its probly my 3rd busted cv over a few yrs ive ever had.. thats why i was thinking the expense of haultech or yuri cv's might be worth it in the long run (i would like to think the treated cv's would last heaps longer than the std ones im using now considering im only wheeling on 33's)

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: In a van down by the river.

I talked to Bobby again. He said he does have certain axle lengths but he doesn't cover all of them. So the best thing to do would be to get axle measurements to make sure you get the correct set.
If Bobby doesn't have the length you need we can get blanks from him and have them cut/splined to your length.

Jason

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:31 am

shorty_f0rty wrote:

75 cruser wrote:

do long longfields do a set to suit your truck

http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/

rob

not sure if they do to be honest.. im pretty sure im running 30spline axles,.. it would just be axle length that would need confirming..
I think i can run the same CV's from a 60/75 maybe even 80 series... again not 100% sure.

for that price tho its almost worth going straight for longs (i was budgeting around $1000-1200 for longs)..

if its around $800ish it could be worth while..

mate i did some research recently and found that there were the above options.
i went with longfields.
for the following reasons:
i tried to buy aussie and all that. yuri's price was about the same as longfields, however there was no warranty offered.
i got longfield 80series CVs and axles (super set) for $1150 landed.
done in 1 hit and they offer alot more assurance then the other companies i found. and Longfields had them to me in around 4days from the states.

DRS

Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Location: Greenbank

crustybj60 wrote:

bad_religion_au wrote:

locktup4x4 wrote:

will the mini truck knuckle fit on the 40 housing.

Jason

yep, that's one of the most common ways to do a disk brake swap.

yes,

but you end up with "small" bolt pattern knuckels, not the same as later 40, 60, 70 series cruiser. if you are going high steer (or crossover, whaterver you call it) it limits your options.

use 60 knuckles, spindles etc... and you get vented rotors as well.

maybe the later SAS lux got the big bolt pattern? i know 79~80 and later front disk cruisers did.

hth's
crusty

All Hilux 4wds run the Large Bolt pattern knuckles. Not a single hilux was ever built by toyota with the small bolt pattern knuckles. Actually any hilux or cruiser with factory disk brakes has the large pattern knuckles.

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Location: somewhere out there

ended up just getting some std cv's which leaves me with a spare.. bit cheaper option... havent seen these marks on the cv's before.. is this normal?