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Tony78rr
Joined: 12 Aug 2003
Location: Melbourne
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Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:39 pm |
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Besides a tow bar, what are people using as a 'substantial' rear tow point?
Any ideas (Cheap ones!!!!) |
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Maggot4x4

Joined: 04 Jun 2003
Location: Just Near Fraser Island
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Posted:
Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:38 am |
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Custom rear bar |
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TuffRR

Joined: 16 Dec 2002
Location: Neither here nor there
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Posted:
Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:57 am |
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Custom bar, recovery hooks mounted onto chassis.... |
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Bodge

Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Location: Over there
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:01 am |
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Yeah custom as well....
Using big hefty U section that goes around the rear crossmember and picks up the 4 attachment points 2 in the middle [vertical] and 2 on the outside [horizontal]. Then have attached a pin reciever style tow point with 18mm grade 8 bolts and a 5mm steel backing plate... |
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Bodge

Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Location: Over there
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Posted:
Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:03 am |
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Oh yeah - its not pretty but it is overbuilt  |
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TuffRR

Joined: 16 Dec 2002
Location: Neither here nor there
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:13 am |
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Its pretty important to have decent recovery hooks on the back of the Rangie coz i keep having to pull other people through  |
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JSBriggs

Joined: 22 Dec 2002
Location: Auburn California USA
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:28 am |
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Anyone consider an American style receiver hitch? I guess Im lucky the the NAS RR's Disco's and Defenders come from the factory with them.
This enables you to either mount a ball hitch for towing or various recovery gear including a winch.
-Jeff |
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modman
Joined: 22 Jul 2003
Location: melbourne
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Posted:
Thu Oct 09, 2003 6:12 pm |
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jeff, i don't know if thats an american invention??
every 4wd in aust. has a receiver like that. but they do detract from ultimate ground clearance. |
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Bodge

Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Location: Over there
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Posted:
Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:46 am |
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Whats the shear strength of that one pin??
Nissan's weigh a lot man....  |
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JSBriggs

Joined: 22 Dec 2002
Location: Auburn California USA
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Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:57 am |
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jeff, i don't know if thats an american invention??
every 4wd in aust. has a receiver like that. but they do detract from ultimate ground clearance. |
I only say American because they came standard on NAS trucks....
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modman
Joined: 22 Jul 2003
Location: melbourne
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Posted:
Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:28 pm |
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if you put a pin with grade 12 rating (bolt) about 12mm it can be 26 tonne! |
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Britswed

Joined: 26 Sep 2003
Location: Sydney,Narrabeen
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Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:50 pm |
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bazzle

Joined: 24 Nov 2002
Location: Melbourne
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Posted:
Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:07 pm |
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pin I believe in double shear is about 28 tonnes. (using a square hitch)
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Bodge

Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Location: Over there
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Posted:
Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:42 am |
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| bazzle wrote: |
pin I believe in double shear is about 28 tonnes. (using a square hitch)
Bazzle |
Should be enough
Even a Nissan can't weigh that much.... |
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modman
Joined: 22 Jul 2003
Location: melbourne
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Posted:
Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:12 pm |
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i don't know?? they need a lot of fuel!!! |
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David Lovejoy
Joined: 15 Oct 2003
Location: Devon - England
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Posted:
Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:04 am |
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Why not just fit two Jate rings and run a bridle between?  |
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Bodge

Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Location: Over there
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Posted:
Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:25 am |
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I had Jate rings and never had a problem - but they are not 'legal' for competition events or for non-Landrover club trips which specify mounting by two rated points to the chassis...
AND I gotta say its easier with the hooks - no more standing in the mud up to my crotch dorking around with two shackles... and no metal attached to the end of your stretchy sling shot recovery rope... |
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David Lovejoy
Joined: 15 Oct 2003
Location: Devon - England
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Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:41 am |
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Fairynuff...
It's a strange world we live in!
Genuine Jate rings are loaded to 14,000lbs - more than enough to tear the chassis...
ideal for a Rangey but not for all other makes of 4x4...
I used to like a welded loop from the end of either chassis rail supported by a butterfly plate - stronger than a bolt in any form, then the Motor Sport Assoc said "No"... Ridiculous, still such is life.
Probably best to look at local club rules first then design the recovery point...
I'll stick with the Jates Rings - they have served me well so far! |
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modman
Joined: 22 Jul 2003
Location: melbourne
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Posted:
Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:54 pm |
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jate rings look neat, but they're a pita in deep mud trying to get shackles around. i suppose you could leave a bridle permanently connected, hooked over the bullbar. |
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landy_man
Joined: 21 Feb 2003
Location: Melbourne
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Posted:
Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:16 pm |
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i had jate rings on my defender and they were great. just attach a bridle beforehand and then you dont even have to get out the car  |
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modman
Joined: 22 Jul 2003
Location: melbourne
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Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:29 pm |
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landyman, what did you use for a bridle?? |
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landy_man
Joined: 21 Feb 2003
Location: Melbourne
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Posted:
Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:49 pm |
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very short tree trunk protector with shackle in the middle
ideally you would want a really short snatch strap, but those are not available....
I have also seen nylon covered steel cable
but I am thinking about possibly some 10 or 12mm plasma rope would also do...
and you could tie the plasma to the bullbar while not using it  |
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David Lovejoy
Joined: 15 Oct 2003
Location: Devon - England
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Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:24 pm |
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A 14 tonne SWL short lifting strap about ten feet long is ideal - with a padded slip collet so you don't need an extra shackle...
Be careful it's not too short or you can pull in the chassis rails under high load...  |
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modman
Joined: 22 Jul 2003
Location: melbourne
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Posted:
Thu Oct 16, 2003 4:06 pm |
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cheers landyman, good thought. |
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David Lovejoy
Joined: 15 Oct 2003
Location: Devon - England
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Posted:
Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:47 pm |
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hmmm - *must check to see if writing invisible posts* |
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