external beadlocks

Joined: 14 May 2008 Location: the sticks gippsland

wat are your oppinions on external bead locks, who drives on road with them? how bad are they on road? hard to ger running true? i am thinking about a set for my 15s.

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Newcastle

They are illegal for road use.

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:20 pm

thats not an answer to the question asked...
4" lifts, 35s, no swaybars, chopped exhausts, etc etc etc are all common things driven on road which are illegal for road use in most areas of australia

Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Location: Emerald vic

i drive with them on road sometimes, not often at all though.
Not to bad to drive with, but thats on 36s with 4 inch lift, still gets the shakes up but nothing to bad

Joined: 14 May 2008 Location: the sticks gippsland

do you think they are worth the money? how hard is it to set the tyre up between thr locking ring and the rim? i know all our local tyre joints wont touch them

Joined: 17 Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne

Their Pretty Easy To Setup Mate,

I Kept Blowing Beads So I Bought A Set Which I Havn't Yet Fitted. But From What Ive Seen They Work Pretty Well

If You Use An Air Ratchet Or A Drill With A Cut Up Allen Key It Will Be A Shit load Easier And Quicker

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:27 pm

I got some one else to weld them on for me and then I fitted the tyre on myself. Tyre was easy to fit on and hand tightened all the bolts up to ensure is all even and never had a problem since.
I have some Autobalance in the tyres but they still have a bit of vibration around the 65-85Lm mark.
I only use these occasionally when doing a hard trip so I can put up with the vibration.

Joined: 29 May 2009 Location: brisbane

maybe if you take the wheels off the car and take em down to the tyre joint they will fit them for ya

Joined: 03 Sep 2008 Location: KURRAJONG

i run them on 15x10s with 37x14.5 creepys on road for all the hard trips and dont have a problem with the shakes and never lost a tyre even at 6 or 8 psi.i did have them balanced by a friend that owns a tyre shop they took stacks of lead but thats wat i was expecting. i am currently un licenced and my girl drives it to the dirt for me no probs.

Joined: 19 Aug 2008 Location: Perth WA

I run 16x8 Pro comp 51 series rims with ext beadlocks fitted & 37x13.5 X-terrains. they are my daily tyre and have no probs at all, I find they are much better than internal beadlocks
they can be hard to balance when running big tyres

I run my tyres at 5psi when playing in the sand and 8-10psi for rock & mud best investment I have made

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:37 am

whats the advantage of external vs internal beadlocks??

Are internal legal/handle ok?

Banned Joined: 27 May 2008 Location: yes

phippsey wrote:

whats the advantage of external vs internal beadlocks??

Are internal legal/handle ok?

Internal bead lock holds both tyre beads on the rim not like the usual external bead locks that only holds one part of the bead on the rim.

They are legal in some states... Please check with the Department Of Transportation of your state.

Joined: 08 May 2005 Location: melbourne

First of all the easy answer, No internals are not legal either as you have to drill a second valve hole in the rim and this mod according to the adrs is not legal. However i think you would be very unlucky to get picked up for it.

Now the hard question as to wether internals or externals are better.

Before i get flamed this is personal opion only.

I ran internals and people argue that they are better as they hold both beads (ie inside and outisde to the rim). However i had no end of trouble with the internal lock leaking and letting enough air out that it no longer locked the bead to the rim. In the end i got so annoyed with this that i got external mechanical locks.

So the external locks have been great i just nip the bolts up every 3 or 4 months and i have never managed to pop a bead and i have literally run the tyres virtually flat. Yes the tyres were a bugger to balance but once i found someone who had some idea what they were doing the tyres blanced up ok and i only get a small shake at about 65kms which i can drive through and it dissapears at about 70kms.

Overall if i had my time again i would just by external mechanical locks first time round.

Banned Joined: 27 May 2008 Location: yes

mudmav wrote:

First of all the easy answer, No internals are not legal either as you have to drill a second valve hole in the rim and this mod according to the adrs is not legal. However i think you would be very unlucky to get picked up for it.

Now the hard question as to wether internals or externals are better.

Before i get flamed this is personal opion only.

I ran internals and people argue that they are better as they hold both beads (ie inside and outisde to the rim). However i had no end of trouble with the internal lock leaking and letting enough air out that it no longer locked the bead to the rim. In the end i got so annoyed with this that i got external mechanical locks.

So the external locks have been great i just nip the bolts up every 3 or 4 months and i have never managed to pop a bead and i have literally run the tyres virtually flat. Yes the tyres were a bugger to balance but once i found someone who had some idea what they were doing the tyres blanced up ok and i only get a small shake at about 65kms which i can drive through and it dissapears at about 70kms.

Overall if i had my time again i would just by external mechanical locks first time round.

Correct,

I personally liked the External over the Internal bead lock... I ran them on my 36inch pedes. How ever they're both illegal in QLD, don't know about other states.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:00 pm

yea i run externals, they shake a bit but are sooooo much cooler Very Happy

when u can air down to 1 or 2 psi on rocks Smile

Joined: 14 May 2008 Location: the sticks gippsland

wheres the best spot ta get a set in vic? cheap and good?
im still undecided wether ta fark off the 10x 16s or stay with em. had another leak and rolld another bead off satdy night

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:54 pm

waandy wrote:

wheres the best spot ta get a set in vic? cheap and good?
im still undecided wether ta fark off the 10x 16s or stay with em. had another leak and rolld another bead off satdy night

PM me if you want some.
Johnno

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:14 pm

what he said Razz

just get a weld on kit, that way u can keep ur rims, and get beadlocks all in one foul swoop

Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Location: melbourne

yeh all u need is to be a really good welder so when u cruise out to the bush on them they dont self destruct!

Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Location: the sticks - Tas

mudmav wrote:

First of all the easy answer, No internals are not legal either as you have to drill a second valve hole in the rim and this mod according to the adrs is not legal. However i think you would be very unlucky to get picked up for it.

Now the hard question as to wether internals or externals are better.

Before i get flamed this is personal opion only.

I ran internals and people argue that they are better as they hold both beads (ie inside and outisde to the rim). However i had no end of trouble with the internal lock leaking and letting enough air out that it no longer locked the bead to the rim. In the end i got so annoyed with this that i got external mechanical locks.

So the external locks have been great i just nip the bolts up every 3 or 4 months and i have never managed to pop a bead and i have literally run the tyres virtually flat. Yes the tyres were a bugger to balance but once i found someone who had some idea what they were doing the tyres blanced up ok and i only get a small shake at about 65kms which i can drive through and it dissapears at about 70kms.

Overall if i had my time again i would just by external mechanical locks first time round.

x2nakidgirlsonmydesktop

i just threw my internal sets in the bin, both worn through.

I had them on my 95 Q, and the wheels used to shake all over the show, it got so bad i was tacking the car threw lanes of traffic, and riding the brakes to stop the shake. Took them to get balanced and checked, and we found them shagged. Took them out, and had about 5 grams of lead added, and it drives 100% now. No shakes at all....

We think that;
1) if you run rock most of the time and 50-60psi you will be fine with internal
2) If you go for the mud, get external, as the internal locks rub through, and wear a hole in the tubes

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Newcastle

love ke70 wrote:

thats not an answer to the question asked...
4" lifts, 35s, no swaybars, chopped exhausts, etc etc etc are all common things driven on road which are illegal for road use in most areas of australia

I know it wasn't an answer, it was my opinion, the first bit waandy asked for...but it was good to see you offered an opinion or an answer...

Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Location: Perth

Dont get Staun beadlocks!!!

nothing but dramas.

other internals may be better, but i doubt it.

Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Location: On board the Mothership

I run Walker Evans and they are every bit as good as a stock rim.....

the only other ones I would ever consider are the Unlimited Industries ones that are also self centering.

http://www.unlimitedindustries.com.au/452.html